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necessary to sacrifice animal lives even at the expense of some pain in 
order to save human life, which might be otherwise lost with such 
pain or more, that it is our moral position that it is justified under 
those circumstances to sacrific animal life. Any other position, sir, 
is an antivivisectionist position. And I hope that we will not get 
into the position of having to argue that it is justifiable to carry on 
types of experimentation which may be painful but which are abso- 
lutely necessary in order to save human life and save hnmans from 
pain. 
Mr. Roberts. Thank you, Doctor. 
I notice that as an appendix to your statement you have attached a 
copy of the Minnesota act which was passed in the 1949 legislature. 
And I am advised that the distinguished Member from Minnesota, 
Mr. Nelsen, was a member of that legislature, and I assume he voted 
for that act. 
Mr. Nelson. Mr. Chairman, I would like to comment about the 
Minnesota act a bit. This is an act that provided for the licensing of 
educational and scientific institutions under the livestock sanitary 
board. They set up accommodations for experimental animals, and 
in the event that someone violated the requirements of the livestock 
sanitary board, the license could be removed. 
That is approximately what is in the act, is it not, Doctor? 
Dr. Visscher. Yes. 
Mr. Nelson. And it has worked out very well in our State. 
Dr. Visscher. It has worked out very well. 
Mr. Roberts. Thank you. 
Mr. Rogers, do you have any questions ? 
Mr. Rogers of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I just want to ask this: Do 
you feel this type of legislation might be adopted on the Federal level ? 
Dr. Visscher. I think that if it is necessary to have Federal legis- 
lation in order to control the facilities and quality of personnel for 
the care of animals, that it would not be objected to by scientists. I 
am not sure it is necessary. I am sure that in the State of Minnesota 
it is unnecessary. 
Mr. Rogers of Florida. Thank you. 
Mr. Roberts. Thank you, Doctor. 
Our next witness is Dr. L. Meyer Jones, American Veterinary Medi- 
cal Association, Washington, D.C. 
Dr. Jones, you may proceed with your statement, sir. 
STATEMENT OE DR. L. MEYER JONES, DIRECTOR OF SCIENTIFIC 
ACTIVITIES, AMERICAN VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION 
Dr. Jones. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I am 
L. Meyer Jones, director of scientific activities, American Veterinary 
Medical Association. 
I appear today as the representative of the American Veterinary 
Medical Association (AVMA) and we appreciate this opportunity to 
express our views. 
All veterinarians are opposed to neglect and cruelty of animals 
whether in a community at large or in a scientific laboratory. All of 
the professional training and activity of the veterinarian is directed 
toward maintenance of good health in experimental animals by proper 
