276 HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS USED IN RESEARCH 
I should like to comment very briefly because I know you gentlemen 
have had the opportunity of hearing enough information regarding 
the basic features of this problem not to need any reiteration on my 
part. The things I should like to comment on are these. 
First of all, the experience and evolution of this type of administra- 
tive control of the utilization of animals in medical research in other 
countries, naturally, involves the basic human nature aspect of such 
activities, forgetting entirely about any political activities whatsoever. 
That being true, I think it is of some interest and I believe we can 
get some information out of the fact that, for instance, in England and 
in Denmark their research has been rather spectacularly improved in 
caliber and accomplishment as the result of administrative control 
rather similar to what is proposed in this bill. 
The other aspect of it which I should like to comment on is the fact 
that in view of the fact that the Secretary of Health, Education, and 
Welfare is going to be responsible for carrying out the activities 
related to this bill, the Public Health Service as of the current year is 
administering the dissemination of over $600 million in research proj- 
ects all over the United States. 
In addition to that, I think it is obvious and common knowledge to 
everyone in this country that the Public Health Service has spectacu- 
larly expanded and improved and carried out all of its medical respon- 
sibilities in such a way that the authority could not be placed really 
in any better position than it is planned in, this bill. 
Those are the chief reasons, Mr. Chairman, that insofar as I am 
concerned, I appreciate the privilege of appearing here before you 
and recommending that this bill be enacted successfully into legisla- 
tion. 
If there happen to be any questions that occur to you that I might be 
able to answer to clarify any of the problems that you have in mind, 
I would appreciate very much trying to answer them for you. 
Mr. Roberts. Thank you very much, Doctor. Is it your opinion 
that animals properly cared for and properly used could perhaps give 
us an even better quality of medical research than we now have ? 
Dr. Herbst. Mr. Chairman, I do not think there is any question 
about that. I think the experience in other countries would more or 
less support that opinion. I should also like to say that the current 
developments in cardiac surgery have been as successful as they are 
as a result of very intelligent, well-controlled utilization of animals in 
developing the techniques which are being used successfully today by 
these surgeons who are participating in that type of surgery. With- 
out properly conducted research of this kind, we would not have pro- 
gressed to the extent that we have at this time. 
Mr. Roberts. Do you believe it would unnecessarily burden the 
medical profession if some reasonable controls were placed on the care 
of animals such as contemplated in this legislation ? 
Dr. Herbst. I do not, Mr. Chairman. I believe, furthermore, that 
those who are participating most successfully and most impressively 
in these fields are individuals who are working in institutions which 
are already cooperating in many different ways with the funds that 
are available, the U.S. Public Health Service and the National Insti- 
tutes of Health, they have a very close liaison today. I cannot imagine 
any difficulty developing as a result of the stipulations recommended 
in this bill. 
