SELECT COMMITTEE ON CONTAGIOUS DISEASES BILL. 713 
order? — It very frequently has been observed that the lambs 
of ewes which have either been recently affected, or are 
affected to some extent at the time they produce their young, 
have speedily become diseased, even when not more than 
two days old. 
158. Would you impose a penalty on a man for fatting a 
lamb that has inherited the disease, although the meat is not 
in any way affected ? — Oh, dear no. 
159. I understood you to say that you would inflict a 
penalty on any person offering for sale sheep affected ? — 
Under certain regulations; the Bill which should be pre- 
pared should deal with special diseases, and there should be 
special clauses to meet special affections; I do not really see 
how it is possible to name certain diseases and make a 
general legislation for them, when they are found to differ so 
much in their nature. 
160 . Then I want to ask whether this disease, which shows 
itself in the lamb very soon after it is born, you would bring 
under the penalties of the Bill? — No; I think such a lamb as 
that would be perfectly valueless to be disposed of. 
]6l. Before it is fatted? — Before it is fatted the animal 
would have recovered : the effects of the disease will, how- 
ever, continue, in so far as sheep are concerned, in their feet 
for a very indefinite length of time, but then very much of 
that will depend on the manner in which they are treated. 
162. You are acquainted with the system of farming in 
Hertfordshire, where they produce fat lambs for the early 
Christmas market ; 1 would ask you whether in that case 
you are aware they go on fatting lambs although they have 
that lameness in them ? — They do so ; but I would take the 
case of some ewes producing their lambs, and their lambs 
becoming affected while being treated in the ordinary man- 
ner ; sav, if you like, that there are twenty lambs which are 
thus affected ; I think it more than probable that fifteen out 
of the twenty would perfectly have recovered in about a week 
or ten days, while five would remain lame, and those animals 
which remained lame would not be at all capable of propa- 
gating the disease ; they would be enabled even to get fat 
under circumstances of that kind, because their lameness 
would not depend on the disease itself, but rather on the 
effects of the disease ; fifteen out of the twenty w 7 ould throw 
it off altogether, five would remain with some of its effects, 
but those effects might not be of any importance. 
163. In your experience, have you not seen that the lambs, 
although affected, may be well to-day and re-affected to- 
morrow without any change of circumstances ? — I have not 
seen cases of that kind. 
