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appear that dogs had some means of conveying their thoughts to one anoth , 
either by instinct, or reason, or intellect, or whatever you like to call it— - 
Mr Reddie.— Excuse me for the interruption ; hut you are contending 
against an argument of Mr. Wallace, to which I alluded, and not to an 
argument of mine. I never raised that issue. But Mr. Wallace, m a paper 
which he read before the Anthropological Society, advocating the Dy*™*? 
theory, laid it down as a canon of that theory, that -teUect imd speech 
would go together. I have no objection to that view i but I wish it to be 
understood that I gave no reasons in its favour ; because Mr. M allace ha = 
laid down that theory, I merely adopted it as an argurmntum ad Umirum. 
Mr. Wapjngton. — I was quite aware of that. I was simp y en ea\ ou™ 
to show that the answer you gave to that was an insufficient answer There 
is a kind of speech possible among animals, and a kind of intellect, 
as human speech and human intellect 
Mr. Reddie.-I beg your pardon ; but if you had attended to the paper 
I think you would have seen that I had almost said as much, and expressly 
reserved that point as one requiring further consideration. 
Mr Wakington. — Very well ; I will not further dwell upon that The 
other point which I wish shortly to mention, is in respect to tbymsnbib y 
or impossibility of savage nations ever rising m civilization. We are old 
as evidence that they never could have risen, that there is no tradition 
existim- amongst civilized nations of their having been previously m a savage 
:Se Before we insist upon that argument, it would be necessary to look a 
this further point-Is it probable, if a nation had risen from savagery to a state 
"civilLtion, that R would recollect, as a tradition to be handed down 
from°one generation to another, that it originally belonged to a class near to 
the brute! I put it to yourselves : Is that the kind of tradition you would 
hand down? If you were aware of the fact that your immediate ancestor 
was a monkey, or some other species of brute (laughter), wou d you have 
taken care toW that down to your children? On the c«^woul4 
you not try to conceal it? I know I should. ( aug er.) 
not possible that a nation may have risen from a state of sava^andh^ 
forgotten it, from the people having concealed the fact Mr. 
quoted evidence to show that particular nations look hack to a higher sta 
of civilization ; hut is it not perfectly natural that they should do so ■ 1 Tar 
ditions of this kind, looking back to former glories, would be 
most likely to be handed down. This, it struck me, considerably weakene 
his argument. Again, is it not a fact which tells against the genera 
position of Mr. Reddie, that there are traditions existing among nations 
have attained to an advanced state of civilization, as to certain persons who 
were the inventors of the most fundamental parts of “vdization ' 
there not traditions of those who invented the use of fire . en we a 
traditions of that kind actually existing 
Mr. Eeddie.— Would you mention precisely what traditions you re ■ 
Mr. Warington. — I believe the tradition exists amongst the Chinese, an 
amongst a number of other nations considerably civilized 
