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Sir Tilson Marsh. — Yes ; the whole of man. 
Mr. Greaves. — And yet you say he is part of God. 
Sir Tilson Marsh. — Yes, I believe the 7 rvav/xa to be derived from God ; 
but it is quite possible that the xvtv/xa may be given to man by to Uvev[xa 
ayiov , the Holy Spirit, but limited and finite in character as compared with 
the Unbounded Spirit, and liable to evil, which God cannot be. 
Dr. Dendy. — Which is it that thinks — the 7 tv tv pa or the i'vxv ? That 
will enable us to get at something. 
The Chairman. — I believe Sir Tilson Marsh said it was the 7ri /tv/xa. 
Sir Tilson Marsh. — Yes, if pressed on the point, I think that I would 
draw this distinction, that in all probability the 7 rvtvfia when imparted to 
man, breathed by God, who, we are told, breathed into man the breath 
of life, was then under circumstances which could not have applied to 
it except as united to the material. 
The Chairman. — I think it is wrong to say that the 7 rvsvfj,a is part of God, 
because we believe God is without parts. It would, perhaps, be better to say, 
it is an emanation from God. 
Sir Tilson Marsh. — Exactly ; it is an emanation from God. 
Mr. Greaves. — God is said to have breathed into man the breath ( Ruach 
is the Hebrew word) of life, but I do not think that the distinctions which 
you have so nicely and so beautifully drawn exist as you have stated them. 
I do not think that any lexicographer would give the distinction you have 
drawn between 7 rvtv\ia and ^vxv. If you go back to trace the history of 
man as it is written in the earlier pages of Genesis, you will not be able to 
draw that distinction ; and I do not think you will be borne out by Liddell 
and Scott, or by any other Greek lexicographer. I have gone very carefully 
into the various definitions of the words 7 -vev/xa and and they run into 
each other so as not to permit those nice distinctions which you have drawn, 
although there certainly would be much that would be satisfying if you could 
bind us down to such limitations and definitions . 
Sir Tilson Marsh. — You say the Hebrew word Ruach is the breath of 
life ? 
Mr. Greaves. — Yes, it is in the singular that the word occurs. 
Sir Tilson Marsh. — I would not appeal to the first chapter of Genesis as 
the ground of my definition, but would go to the first epistle to the Thessa- 
lonians as giving the definition I have stated. A careful distinction is, how- 
ever, drawn between the spirit and the soul in the Old Testament. 
Mr. Greaves. — In the 15th chapter of the first epistle to the Corinthians 
the body is called a <r upct ypvxiKov, and in reference to that I looked very 
carefully into the lexicographical distinction between and Trvevfxa^ and I 
certainly could not find any line so definite as that which you have drawn ; if 
it were so, I think the question might be easily, permanently, and happily 
settled. 
Sir Tilson Marsh. — I remember some time ago looking at the passage in 
the Septuagint which speaks of the spirit of the beast which goeth downward, 
and of the spirit of man which goeth upward, and the word 7 rvtvpu is there 
