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it to be the same disease. I have looked most closely to all 
the authors who wrote at the period to which your Lordship 
has referred, and though their statements are somewhat 
ambiguous, and one might from isolated passages be inclined 
to doubt the connection, still I believe that the disease 
described by them is identical with the one which exists at 
the present time in Poland. 
199* I believe the statement made in Mr. Youatt’s book 
on cattle is, that that disease was brought to this country by 
two calves? — Such a statement has been made. 
200. And are you of opinion the same thing might happen 
again if proper precautions were not taken ? — Yes, in the 
event of the disease reaching Prussia, and subsequently 
Holstein, or any other place from which we receive our 
supplies. 
201. Is the district at present so far removed that it is 
impossible any cattle could find their way here? — It would 
be impossible for any diseased cattle to find their way 
here. 
202. Suppose it reached those countries bordering on the 
great rivers that flow into the German Ocean ? — There 
would then be a greater risk of the disease arriving here ; 
but such would be the regulations, and such the system 
pursued with regard to cordons , that I hardly think we should 
be in much danger. 
203. Did you enquire, when in those countries, w hat is 
the most distant point from which cattle are exported to 
England ? — There are no cattle that are directly exported to 
England, excepting from the countries that border on the 
North Sea or German Ocean ; no cattle are brought down 
any of the rivers for direct exportation. Cattle and sheep 
may find their way down the Kibe, and likewise down the 
Weser, and even the Rhine; these animals are however not 
sent direct to England, but on the contrary they are sent to 
Holstein, Holland, and adjacent countries to be fed, and 
subsequently to be sent to England or elsewhere. Persons 
go to Saxony and Prussia and purchase animals, but then 
they do so for feeding, and not for exporting. 
204. No animals find their way direct from the Baltic 
ports? — No: nor from Kiel. They come chiefly from 
Toningen and from Hamburgh. 
203. Have you any from the western coast of Denmark, 
north of Toningen ? — From Toningen. 
206. Sir John Shelley .] Is there any exportation of hides 
from that country ? — No; Holland is a country which im- 
ports hides from Buenos Ayres and Java. There are no 
