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228. Then you think it very improbable that it will come 
here ? — I think it next to an impossibility for the disease to 
come here. 
229. Chairman .] In those countries west of the line you 
have named, did you find cases of pleuro-pneumonia, or any 
other contagious or infectious disease? — Pleuro-pneumonia 
prevails to a very considerable extent in some parts of 
Holland, and also in Holstein, and likewise in Mecklenburg. 
In Saxony there is less of it. There is not much pleuro- 
pneumonia in Prussia or Austria; and I think in Hungary 
none at all. 
230. It is prevalent in some of those countries from which 
cattle are imported into England ? — It is prevalent in all 
those countries, with the exception, perhaps, of Spain, 
which I cannot speak of; but it is prevalent, more or less, 
in all the other countries from which we receive cattle. 
231. Mr. Caird .] Is it more prevalent in those countries 
than here? — Yes, it is just now. 
232. Generally speaking, do you think it is? — Generally 
speaking, I think it is. 
233. Mr. Colvile.'] And have measures been taken in those 
countries to prevent the spread of pleuro-pneumonia ? — The 
precautionary measures are taken that I have mentioned as 
to rinderpest. 
234. But they have not had the effect of checking it? — 
They have had the effect of checking it in some parts of 
Holstein ; and its re-introduction is attributed to some ani- 
mals that were purchased in the interior of Prussia coming 
up the Elbe, and being depastured on some of the islands of 
the river near to Hamburgh. It was thought that, but for 
this circumstance, the adoption of those stringent measures 
had freed Holstein from disease. 
235. Chairman .] It was from the failure of carrying out 
the sanitary regulations that the disease was re-introduced ? 
— That was the statement, as I received it. 
236. Mr. Miles.~\ Are there any other recommendations 
that you would wish to give to the Committee other than 
what we have elicited ? — There is no other disease that it is 
necessary to legislate on. I think, however, that there are 
some practical defects in the Bill which I have referred to ; 
but these would be more matters of detail than of general 
principle. 
