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THE FIELD 
ptliwnfntir. 
IWffbAr.— LonPS.-Tlio Duke of Bucclcueb. in presenting n peti 
Inn hinvlnc that if! any menslire which might b6 pnsseil oh tho subject 
of education In Scotland, the severance of the connection between the 
Established Church In that country nnd the parochial school* might not 
be sanctioned, Inquired what the Intentions of Government upon the 
question were 1 
The Earl of Aberdeen. In reply, stilted that Government had thought 
It desirable, to know the fate of the measure for the extension of 
education generally in Scotland, before legislating for the case of the 
Parochial schoolmaster*. Ity the bill which they hail Intended to 
Introduce during the prrseht session, the stipends of the parochial 
schoolnwatcrs would have been largely increased. Under the present 
oJicumstancoa, he win ready to fulill his former pledge, and bring In a 
measure for the temporary increase of their sularies to the amount 
enjoyed by the schoolmasters Under the former Act, 
Lord Brougham suggested the Introduction of two bills, one for t lie 
towns the other for the rnrnl district*. Ho trusted that Govern- 
ment would consult the cause of education rather than the advan- 
tage of any religions body. 
After a few explanations the conversation dropped. Adjourned. 
Common’s —Sir .lames Graham. In answer to Mr. Dlgby Seymour, 
said that about fifty Russian suhjoets had been made prisoners In 
the Black Sea, anu that Instructions hail been sent to Admiral 
Dundas on no account to liberate them, except in exchange for 
British prisoners. 
The llouiui having gone into Committee of Ways and Means, 
The Chancellor of the Exchequer moved the Exchequer-bonds and 
bills resolutions. 
Sir. Barliijt, who hnd stated that he found it was more regular to 
postpone bl.s amendment until the House should be In committee, said 
tluit lie wished lie could have given a silent vote in support of the Go- 
veniment. lie should not huvu opposed these resolutions but for Mr. 
Gladstone's speech on the Budget, which implied that the policy of 
the post wo* to be that of (lie future; and had asked the approbation of 
the House to well policy . This, Mr. Baring thought, ought not o bo 
given, as lie regarded the measures of last year ns ill advised and un- 
successful. He proceeded to censure the conduct of the Chan cellor of 
the Exchequer in regard to Hit? Bank of England, and then, adverting 
to the present stutu of public finance, said that lie shared the expressed 
wish of the Chancellor of (liu Exchequer not to Increase the national 
debt and he thought that tlio gradual extinction of the debt ought to 
have been a more prominent feature of our policy in time of peace. 
He could not understand how the proposed plan of the Chancellor of 
the Exchequer, ns regarded these exchequer securities, was anything 
but a loan, which meant inoiicy borrowed and to be repaid at some 
time or another. He asked whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer 
did not think It dangerous to force upon any body who might four 
ypars hence 1111 his office, the repayment, at a specific time, of the 
money borrowed, mid remarked that such successor in his cmbnrrnsx- 
ificnt might complain to tilts house of Mr. Gladstone, as Mr. Gladstone 
had complained of Mr. Blit. He hml, by his amendment, suggested 
six years ns the limit of these bonds, because, at all events, there would 
be something coming In by the terminable annuities between October, 
1809, and July, 18(10, to Ihcrcuse the revenue. After some animadver- 
sions on Mr. Gladstone, he denied that tlio decision of the House on 
this subject could, except by distortion, he considered a vote of confi- 
dence In the Government ; but he admitted that Ills amendment impli d 
a want of confidence In measures Hint had proved abortive from the 
mad way In which they had been brought forward. Financial mistakes 
were national misfortunes. As a protest against the system, lie ven- 
tured to move Ills amendment. 
Mr. Wilson applied himself to the objections of the preceding 
speaker, and vindicated the course of the Chancellor of the Exchequer 
ns regarded Exehequcv-hllls, which he contended had been dealt with 
wisely, anil in the way most calculated to preserve their value iis popu- 
lar securities. Ilnd tlio operation stood alone! It would have been a 
perfect success, lie entered into an elaborate defence of the transac- 
tions with the Bank of England, contending that where separate draw- 
ing accounts were kept— and In the ease of Government there existed 
no fewer than sixty-nine— they lnul a right to look to the aggregate, 
and to reject the complaint that any one or ipore of the speelHc ac- 
counts wei'o drawn low. As regarded tlio Immediate subject of the 
amendment, lie said that the real question was! whether the expenses 
of the war were to be njet by tlio Income of the year, or by recourse to 
u loan, according to Hie course of Mr. Pitt. In reference to Mr. Bar- 
ing's observations ns to O/ty flnancldrs, ho remarked upon the efforts 
that hod been uindB to depress the value of public securities, by "bear- 
ing " the market, in tlio nope lliat a Joan would bo resorted to. He 
hoped that the House would sol Us face against loans, and that there 
would he no tampering With tile currency. 
Sir. Molina at great length Justified the arguments lie had previously 
used upon the subject, and charged Sir. Gladstone with having, by 
Issuing Exchequer-bills nt n discount, violated his own rule that wo 
should borrow nt par, and also with having followed the example of 
Mr. I’ltf, whom ho condemned, In having made lilmsclf liable for £'110 
in return for £100, just as Mr. l'ltt made himself liable for £100 In- 
return for £72. 
Sir. Lalng argued, 'from the case with which railway companies raised 
eery largo sums, that there could he no real difficulty in the way of 
the Got eminent obtaining tlio money requited.' The great majority of 
practical men In tlio country, however they might cilticlso details, 
approved, he mild, oi the plan of tlio Government, and would consider 
It a misfortune If this amendment were carried 
Mi Cairns objected to tlio extent to which it was proposed to raise, 
in one year, funds for the war, anil also to the taxes w hereby those 
funds were to bo raised; ami he foretold that a just war would be ren- 
dered unpopular by an unjust Income tux. 
Mr. John M'Gregor supported th6 Government resolutions. 
Mr. T. Hanltey hoped that the comtnlttco w oilld not throw any Im- 
pediment hi the way of the Chancellor of the Exchequer doing wlmt 
w as proposed. 
There were cries for ft dlvlMoh, and strangers were ordered to with- 
draw. 
Mr. plsruoll considered the financial management of the Chancellor 
of the Exchequer to have been from the first erroneous, and Injurious 
to the country. The second great fault was the celebrated scheme of 
conversion, which was founded on fallacious and contradictory prin- 
ciples, uiid i|s magnitude hud bceu lost sight of bocuiiso circumstances 
bod prevented Its being carried ollt. Against tills most Imprudent 
plan Mr. GhiUrtouo bad been duly warned. But tlio finance question 
last year had been argued w ithout the House having the Information 
svhleh the Government possessed, and which must have Impressed the 
Chancellor of the Exchequer with tlio possibility of a with Ills intro- 
duction of t but scheme to ti c House, under such circumstances, was an 
error of statesmanship fiir more Important ' than his financial errors. 
Ills third fault wnsthegrcntestwhlch a financial statesman could commit, 
end which had prepared those difficulties « ith which we should still have 
to contend, and this whs that when war \V|| Imminent a pure pcaccbudget 
had been proposed. IIo dill not cull the budget so because It repealed 
taxes, but because the House wax asked to neccpt it on the eondltlou 
that the lluunclnJ future was to comprise such repeals, and this nt a 
time when the Chancellor of the Exchequer well knew that an alliance 
hostile to ils was being proposed, and that armies were gathering. 
Then he described ns the fourth error, the reduction of the rate of 
Interest In a way which comp lied the paying of £3,000,00(1 of Exche- 
quer-bills with the national balances; aiid as the fifth, the tampering 
with the funds of the savings batiks. Tlio next error was the neglect 
to refill the Exchequer nt a tlinc when State setrets made It clear to 
tlio Chancellor of the Exchequer Hint such a course w mild he necessary 
and when money could have been easily attained. He then attacked 
the financial statement of Hie Oth March, as cither Inadequate or do- 
cepti e, ami described the subsequent effort to raise money as strange 
and quaint. Ho adverted to the Chancellor of the Exchequer's attempt 
to raise £G,00u/i00 at 4 per cent., mul falling -un event which the Kin - 
pi-ror of Russia must regard as an equivalent for the bombardment or 
Odessa. He oM declared that all the "stags" of London hud been the 
Chancellor of the Exchequer's subscribers and correspondents. The 
present proposal he characterised ns a loan In masquerade, and as n 
MMusticul expedient. He then referred to the Chancellor of the Ex- 
chequer » allusions to Mr. l'ltt, and advised Mr Ulmlttunu to give over 
unworthy sneers at such h memory, still dear lo Englishmen, And con- 
(Inc himself to seli-glonlleatlon, of w hich he w as a master. Let him 
remember Hint Mr But held the helm in a season of unexampled 
peril, and owed to the country m, deeinosymu v tomb 
The Chancellor of the Exchequer said that, 'us regarded the charge 
that Government did not anticipate «wd properly provide for the war 
that was on accusation which might be advanced, If Its truth were 
f.dt and Government would not shrink from meeting It. The people 
of Lnglai" 1 presented at that time a spectacle oj moral arauflem In the 
c-lfort* they were cheerful!, making to uppnrt n just nml necessary 
war. mul they made them because they had confidence In the II -,n4 
of Commons, and In it* guardianship of the nnllooot interest .. In 
referring to Mr. Baring's speech, lie eoiniileineuied'idm' mUi’b dex 
tenty In draw ing the at tention cftln committee to small mul secondary 
matters, lie incidentally mentions.! , , f 
u .suggestion which hud bed. imq,., nnd 8 | looW ‘A ' 
resolutions by limiting the rate of 1. fast lo £4 per ee 
disavowed any Idea of unworthy reference toMr.Tltt, and regretted 
if he had spoken n word too strongly In legat'd to Umt ere it man to 
whose error* lie had only referred for the sake o! them 
Wiih the gallant efforts made to redeem them. He wuw-iiirtoil n* 
challenging discussion, In Intelligible form, of any of the mtm Riot 
had been raided, and adding that the Government came to the House 
to n*k for the means of carrying on tho war. and were convinced, as 
Mr. Disraeli had said, that the decision would he given with regard 
to Hie advantage of the country. 
Mr. Baring replied, declaring that he believed the amount asked for 
was not necessary, that the Exchequer market had been Injured, and 
that Improvidence hud been displayed. 
The committee divided after eight bom's and a-halfs discussion, and 
the number* were 
For the resolution 290 
For Mr. Baring's amendment 18ti 
Majority for the Government 101 
Louil cheering followed the announcement. 
Tho resolutions were agreed to and the House resumed, and, the 
remaining business being disposed of, adjourned. 
TUESDAY.— Lords.— The Episcopal and Capitular Estates Man- 
agement (1854) Bill was referred to a select committee. 
Upon the motion for the second rending of tho Dangerous Animals’ 
Bill, the measure was withdrawn. 
The House having gone into committee on the Second Common 
Law Procedure (1854) Bill, upon Its recommitment, 
Lord St. Leonards objected, among other points, to unanimity In 
Juries being departed from, to the unlimited power which the bill gave 
lo Judge- to order arbitrations, ami to Hie power vested in Judges to 
dispense with the oaths of witnesses. Ho contended that the measure 
would lead to great embarrassment, by the fusion which It attempted 
to effect between law and equity. 
The Lord Chancellor, with regard lo tho departure from the principle 
of requiring unanimity Injuries, said, the provision merely guarded 
against the trouble and inconvenience which might he caused by one 
or two obstinate men upon Hie Jury, by declaring that if. nt the end of 
twelve hours, ten or eleven Juror* wore agreed upon their verdict, that 
verdict should be held good. As to the fusion between law and 
equity, all that the hill proposed was to enable the court before which 
any matter was brought to deal with the whole of It at once. 
Lord St. Leonards withdrew hls objections, and tho clauses were 
agreed to. 
The Church Buildings Act Amendment Billpnased|througU committee. 
Their lordships then adjourned till Friday. 
Coiimoxs — On the discussion of a private bill (the Middlesex 
Industrial Schools Bill) a warm debate arose, originated by Mr. .Mai- 
lings, on Hie question whether n power should he reserved to the visi- 
tors of the schools to permit the attendance of ministers, not of the 
Established Church, upon the Inmates, If their number w arranted such 
an arrangement. Mr. Newdcgnte and other Opposition members 
strongly contended against the principle alleged to bo Involved In such 
a provision, namely, Hint of enacting the celebration of mass. Mr. 
Addo'ley opposed the proposition on practical grounds, and it was sup- 
ported by Lord D. Stuart and others on the score of religious liberty. 
On division, the proposed power wns retained In tlio hill by 190 to 108. 
.Mr. Thomas Duncombc sold, that having received an Intimation from 
the committee of Preston Operatives that, their struggle being over, 
they wished hls motion on the subject to be nbundoned, lie should 
comply with such desire. 
Sir William Clny moved for leave 'to bilug in a bill for the total 
abolition of church rates. He dwelt upon the census, w hich showed 
that lialf the popillution did not attend the worship of the Church of 
England. But he contended that there wns no want of energy and self- 
supporting power In the Church, that from 1801 to 1S21 there had been 
2,629 new churches built, at an expense of nine millions, of which only 
about a million and a half had been advanced by the state. This bill 
consisted of two clauses— one for the abolition of tlie church rates, and 
for providing Hint where such rates had been subverted for other than 
their original purposes they should be paid until flic claims upon them 
had been extinguished, or otherwise provided for. 
Mr. 1'eto, in seconding the motion, expressed hls gratification that 
this bill had been proposed by n member of the Church of England. 
The hostility of the dissenting body to these rates rested, first, on their 
belief in the voluntary nature of evbry religion* action; and secondly, 
on their disapproval of the forcing on any persons the burden of sup- 
porting a worship not their own. He expressed his conviction of the 
ability of the Church to maintain its own edifices, and dwelt upon the 
desirability of getting rPl of the root of bitterness which it was sought 
to removfe. 
Mr. Wigrnni believed that lio more serious blow could bo struck nt 
the Church than the aboliilon of these rotes. 
Mr. Gardner supported the motion, and denied that the Church of 
England could be called the Church of the nation. 
Lord Stanley believed that the time had come for the abandonment 
of these rates, and he should support the bill, acquiescing in the decision 
at which the country had already arrived. 
Mr. Crossley supported the bill. 
Mr. Phillips opposed tho bill. 
Mr. Drummond said fhot every argument which had been used that 
flight was equally valid ugainst the existence of n Church Establish- 
ment. He thought that dissent, like opera boxes and other luxuries, 
ought to be paid for, and that these rates. If taken from the Church, 
ought to be handed to the State. 
Lord J. Bussell could not think that Hie abolition of these rates 
would be attended by the termination of the discord which existed on 
the subject of the Establishment, wli ch had various other valuable 
privileges, also made the subject of complaint by her opponents. This 
was one of n series of attacks, which would be followed by others; and 
If our principle were to be concession and nothing else. It was Impos- 
sible to say how far we might have to go. lie should, if the House 
divided, oppose the Introduction of the bill ; and if, ds Hie House was 
not full, it were carried, lie should oppose it on the seccoud reading. 
He felt secure that stlch u bill could not pass Parliament lit the present 
session. 
The House then divided, and the numbers were— 
For Sir Wm. Clay's motion 1 C!) 
Against It 02 
Majority for the motion 07 
•Leave wns given 'o bring In the bill. 
Tho Industrial and Provident Societies Bill passed through committee. 
The reports of Ways and Means and on the Stamp Acts were received, 
and the House adjourned. 
WEDNESDAY.— Commons— The adjourned debate on the second 
rending of Hie Property Disposal Bill was resumed by 
-Mr. Mullim, who combatted tho objections urged against the bill hy 
Lord Palmerston, when U was uuder discussion on thu 5th of April. 
It was evident that mins making vows of obedience could no longer 
be considered ns free agents, and as the House of Lords had decided 
that property coming to such persons After their profession must belong 
to tlio Institution, it became necessary to adopt some legislative measure 
on the subject. In the case of the JBGnrthyi, It appciivecl Hint one ol 
the ladles lmd shown a strong disinclination to allow ihc convent to 
have tho property in preference toiler relatives. She wns, therefore, 
reminded of her vow of obedience, and rellictantlv ncqiilcxcid. This 
bill was calculated to meet the evil, by rendering nil Mich deeds primn 
'fiicie Invalid, and thus tlirowiiig the tniitspinbantll oil the promulga- 
tor', that no undue Influence had been used. 
Sir J. Young hud Imped that Mr. Whiteside Woilld have followed 
the example of Mr. T. Chambers, nod w ithdrawn a bill llkelv to give 
rise to so milch uneasiness and Hi folding. If there should beany 
grievances, the loss of property must be to Roman Catholics, and If 
they asked for such a bill it might bo right t adopt it; but when it 
was asked lor by parties w ho were not interested in the property, 
nml upon whose interference the Roman Catholics looked w ith great 
distrust, the question then hksuhv d u very different aspect. 
Sir J. PuUingtou Said the question was one entirely of civil right, 
ami hml nothing whatever to do with polemic!*, and considering it in 
that light only ho would give it ids support. 
Mr. lliidlleld opposed Hie hill. 
Mr. Collier supported tho bill, but thought the preamble should bo 
amended In committee. 
Ml. J. Fitzgerald opposed tile hill, being of opinion that (he law ns 
It now stood wns sufficient. 
Mr. George supported the bill. 
„ Ml - Bony cr opposed tho bill, as being directed against (ho Roman 
Catholics, to whom It was evidently hostile. 
Mr. F. Scully opposed tlio bill. 
Mr. Wilkinson said Hmt no Inatnncc'lmd been adduced in which tho 
existing law hud not been fouud amply sufficient, and lie should there- 
fore oppose the bill. 
The discussion was continued by Mr. Bland and Mr. II. Liddell, and 
Mr. J. O Cdnncll, after which 
Lord Purmu-Il quoted u letter from tho brother of tho Misses 
M Carthy to Mr. 1 . Chambers, urging tho necessity fur legislation on 
the subject. 
Mr. Serjeant Slice said the House would be guilty of nn immoral net 
If It passed this bill, for it would thereby 'salu ilon falsehood He repu- 
diated the doctrine laid dow n by tho Lord Chancellor of Ireland, Unit 
u lady acting In accordance with a vow voluntarily taken could not ho 
considered ns a flee agent. With respect to the letter of the young 
M Carthy, Its object was evidently to have the law so altered that Ids 
sisters might he declared civilly dead, in which case lie would become 
entitled to their property. Tills was the sort of thing which the bill 
bcloi'o the House would generate Upon n large scale. 
Alter some observations from Mr. Frewcn, 
Ur. .1 F. Fitzgerald said that tlio bill was another inode of carrying 
out the object of the motion of Mr. T. Chambers. He s ught to uinler- 
minb Hie fortress which Mr. Chambers had fulled to carry T,y assault. 
Mr. Maguire then rose and spoke Until a quarter tosfx o'clock wh 
the Speaker adjourned the debate. ’ cn 
The remaining business was then disposed of, aud the House a I 
Journal. 
THURSDAY — Cost sroxs.—OXtus BiLi. — Lord J. Russ&ll moved (ii> 
second reading of the above bill. 
Sir F. Thesiger rove to move an amendment, that tho b : H bOrmAn 
second time upon this (lay six months. Tho returns upoq the sublect 
of petitions against the bill Were remarkable. It Was true they h-m ' 
petition from the city of London ill favour of tlic bill presented with 
the usual formalities, blit that was lo be anticipated, but the pot i Ron* 
from the country were remarkable. 'There had been presented three 
petitions, with 1150 signatures, fof ultcnitioqs In Hie present oaths but 
not in favour of the present hill, and one petition in favour 0 f the 
measure, while the petitions against the bill presented up to yesterday 
were 481, containing C, 171 names. He cqn ideredth » measure, mlbc/ 
showed that the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) would allow nothin*,’ 
to sfund In the way of accomplishing anything he wished to hav 
done. And that being so, it would be well f they were to 
aider what had Induced the noble lord to incddlc with till* subject rirsl 
It was In consequence of one of those ill-considered pledges win 
which the noble lord sometimes ettiburfosscd himself, by undertakiull 
lo introduce n bill for the purpose of admitting a gentleman of ||£ 
Jewish persuasion Into that House. The lion, ami learned gentlenich 
retraced the course of tho noble lord's conduct in reference to ikt! 
question, and Hie decisions of the Court of Exchequer and the Court 
Exchequer Chamber on the subject ; and he then said he w ould nsk tii. 
House to contrast the noble lord of 1851 and the noble lord of 
and he could lmrdly believe it was the some voice and Hie Some mini! 
that used such different language— (heal ) - and he (Sir F. Theslietl 
could not help tracing, in (Represent conduct of the noble lord, a W UI, 
to retruce hls constitutional 1 course in 1850 and 185i. (Hear, hear i 
They must remember that the noble lord now sat hi a cabinet, tliv 
principal members of which had been strenuous opponents of Papal 
aggression. (Hear.) In such a combination of circumstances com. 
promise was inevitable, and there must be a sacrifice hy each of g 0 ftt» 
of their dearest friends to the antipathies of the others. By thin n C , v ' 
Tangled measure the noble lord would have the coronation oath of tlu» 
Sovereign to be the only one which promised to guarantee the main.! 
tcnance of the Protestant religion nnd to allow the Subjects of the Sore", 
reign lo take another oath so totally differing from it; and in fart in 
the oath which the noble lord introduced in his proposed Reform 
Bill In 1852, he retained the form for Roman Catholics which he hml 
said on a previ >us occasion that no high-niimio I Koriifto Catholic could 
take w ithout pain, nnd that it was an Insult to them to put such nti 
oath to them. (Hear.) He thought he might venture to appeal to the 
members of the Dissenting body in the House, and lie would nsk them 
to consider whether there w as any imaginary apprehension in refer- 
ence to the Roman Catholic movement for supremacy, and If they 
would not find the little finger of Rome far thicker Ilian Hie loin* of 
the Church of England. (Hear, hear.) Tlio honourable nnd learned 
gentleman concluded by moving Ids amendment. 
The Chancellor of the Exchequer expressed his opinion that 
Lord John Russell had rendered a valuable service In handing ovo? 
to the axe of the executioner a bundle of useless oaths, which 
served ns pitfalls to tender .consciences; w hile they caused bold men 
to disregard conscience altogether. 
Mr. Nupier warned Lord John Russell, that hy altering the words 
of the oath, lie would re-open the whole Catholic question. 
After speeches from Mr. J. G. PliiUjmore, Mr. H. T. Liddell, 81r 
J. WnBnsley, Mr. Xewdegutc, Mr. Sllall, Mr. AVhlteside, Lord J. 
Russell, Mr. Disraeli, and Mr. Muntz, 
Mr Goulbutn, as the only member of the Duke of Wellington's 
Cabinet now remaining in the House, warned the House and Roman 
Catholics not to violate the compact entered into in 1829, lest they 
should be deprived of the substantial benefits conferred on them by 
tlie Emancipation Act. 
On a division, the numbers were— 
For the amendment.. .. .. .. 251 
Against it 217 
Majority .. .. 1 
The hill is therefore lost. 
The Consolidated Fund (£6,000,000) Rill passed through Com- 
mittee. 
The Drainage of Lands Bill wns put through committee profonnn, 
and was ordered to be re-cnitimttlcd on Saturday. 
The Public Libraries Bill and the Sheriff Clerk of Chancery 
(Scotland) Bill were each rend a second lime. 
The Evcliquer- bonds Bill was brought in and rend a first time. 
The House adjourned a a-quaiter to 2 o'clock on Friday morning. 
police Intelligence. 
THAMES. 
MURDER 1N T 1IIE COMMERCIAL ROAD. 
Mary Anno Alice Seagar, ft most repulsive- looking woman, 
82 years of age, residing nt 2, York street, Pliilpot-strret. Com- 
mercial road, wns charged with causing t he death of William' 
Scngnr, her step-son. 
The prisoner, whose second husband, the father of tho deceased 
Child, is n stone -cutter, wrt8 formerly a theatrical dressCr ,ut tlio 
Victoria Then! re, nnd sometimes went on in the groups. Tlie 
details of the evidence were so revolting that they drew tears 
from the magistrate as ho examined the principal witness, tlio 
sister of the deceased, » little girl eleven years of age, who seemed 
perfectly cognizant (if the nature of an oath, nnd gave her evi- 
dence w ith a fenffttUy distinct minulciidss. The prisoner, who 
paced the dork with a theatrical uir, ft rid assumed vurioUS posi- 
tions. whiehsho intended to ho imposing, evidently tried to appear 
indiUcreatj hut was shaken ami Unnerved at some portions of the 
evidence, 
Wnisort) 88 n, stilted; that being Informed that a child had been 
lmdly treated, and taken to the London Hospital, he went tllefo, 
and had an interview with (he house-surgeon, fvllo informed him 
that the chill wns dead. It hml a large wound across the foie- 
head, nml cuts and bruiges on the lips und month. It wns about 
seven years of ivgd- 
Ernest Henman, n tailor, with Whom ltd! prisoner nml her 
husband lodged, stated, that between four olid five on Sunday 
afternoon tho prisoner came home and emnino.ioed belling the 
children. Sounds nr violence wvro continued for n considerable 
time. Her liushuml came lo the door, nnd lmd to knock twice 
heforo lie was ndmltte!. He left shortly afterwords, and the 
violence e mnncrieed again. Then there wns sileilcft for a Utile, 
nod Boon after he heard the prisoner cry out, 1 ' Jfy Hud ! what 
have 1 d<:- o ? Givo me slrongth lo gt> through ih” lie hoard 
her Btvii child, Tbmiiij, by a former liushund, iie.|nontly say to 
his mother, “Leave nil’.'' He (Witness; then heard sounds of 
lamenting, mingled with cries of •* My darling boy.” 
Harriet Henman, wife to the last withes*, eprrtibortifotl his 
evidence. 8ho hoard sounds of stripes nnd vibrations, as if a 
henvy cricket hall was dashed along the lloor. There was 
Fcmunliig, Which subsided into cries, and thou into low mean- 
ings, which every moment grew inure nnd more IVcblr. tMie 
heard the prisoner's hoy say, “ Don't do it again, mother — don't 
do It again.” She heard (he pvlRUnffi' exclaim, "My God! why 
should 1 suiter my passion to urge me to do this? Whiit shall 
1 do, whiit shall I do ?” Witness Was afraid logo up nod shut 
her floor, nml stood at the parlour window. Shesaw the | risoncr 
go out with the child covered up m n sheet. The prisoner turned 
round to her and sin'll, "Willy is convulsed— lie tills fli6 rallies 
n his Ihi'onl.” Witness made no nnawor, but went lo tv friend 
I" ask Ids ndvieo. Ho told her In take chnrgc of the wlher child. 
Tho prisoner appeared to he frightened into sobriety, out of u lit 
ol'dniukenms , when she lift ill ■ house. 
Prisoner : Did I not say to you. • Dear Willy 1ms fallen 
ngainst a tin Imx and out his forehead !" Witness : No, tins is 
the lirst 1 It in' o heard of that. 
Watson, the constable, produced the drew which the prisoner 
wore, arid which wits saturated with blood. Wood seemed hi 
have spirted on the wall, und (hero wns a good deal on the lloor, 
n j art ol which was Washed. 
Anne Cooper Pcagar, tho giil alluded to, wns then called. 
Her oppcoruuco excited tlio deepest commiseration. Him was 
miserably chid, notwithstanding her father's earnings, which arc 
c insidcrnldc; and (he hones starting through her skin presented 
a porfeet picture of famine. She mid several marks of violence 
on her fnee, and one severe out under the right eve She snid : I 
nm thirteen \enrs of age. 1 was in the room When It happened- 
My two brothers were there, Tommy nnd WrRy. [Tommy » 
the prisoner’s child by her lirst husband, and is sleek und com- 
