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tried it for a Dumber of years thai it Is safer t > give the general degree of 
bachelor of science to every man who ccnrptetes any one of the euuises of 
studies. But we do follow the suggestion < f Pr feasor storms, if it is desired 
by the graduate, we will indicate under the uame of the degree " in agriculture/' 
or " in engineering," or " in electrical engineering," but thai is all we do desig- 
nate. We give tli** degree of bachelor of sciences only, and indicate, as 1 say. 
whether agriculture, or civil engineering, or electrical engineering. I do not con- 
tend that is the best way. hut of course it would he scarcely proper for me to 
undertake to discuss a paper and insist on something that we do not do 
ourselves. I rather think that is the safest thing to do at present. First of 
all, I think we certainly ought to insist that the degree should not he given to 
::ny man until lie has had that amount of training and culture which will at 
any rate equal that he would get in the college of liberal arts. You can 
scarcely get the bachelor of arts man as yet to yield equal dignity to the 
degree of bachelor of agriculture. The degree of bachelor of science has come 
to be about as well established as the old bachelor of arts, and therefore I 
think the safe plan is to give the degree of bachelor of science with or without 
the inscription after the degree which would indicate the particular course. 
Mr. Bailey. The practice in the college of agriculture of Cornell University 
is not one that commends itself to me. I think the distinction raised by Presi- 
dent Storms between general academic degrees and professional degrees is a 
Aery important one to keep in mind. We have professional degrees of civil 
engineer, and mechanical engineer, and doctor of veterinary medicine in our 
institution, as in others, and they stand for training in certain professional lines 
of work. In the university they give to the graduates of the college of agri- 
culture the degree of B. S. A., hoping thereby to designate our belief that the 
college cf agriculture is a professional college and is a college which leads to 
liberal culture, giving one of the two coordinate degrees that stand for liberal 
•education, B. S. and B. A., B. A. standing for the culmination of the worli up 
through the languages and B. S. for work up through the sciences. We differ- 
entiate from the old B. S. by adding an A. B. to it, and the whole title is bachelor 
of the science of agriculture, which I do not like. I should much prefer to have 
the degree bachelor of science in agriculture. There is a science of agriculture 
as distinct from other sciences. I think the important point for us to discuss 
and bear in mind is this: Is an agricultural course a professional course in the 
same sense as a legal or civil engineering course, or is it a course, as you say. 
of the liberal art course, which leads to a bachelor of science degree (or to the 
bachelor of arts degree), as distinguished from professional degrees? My own 
feeling is that in our own case, at any rate, the agricultural course should be 
considered to be a general culture course rather than a strictly professional 
course; that we should give it the title and designation of bachelor of science. 
I am very willing to add the designation of the course of study, as, for example, 
of bachelor of science in agriculture, and for a.ll the different lines in which the 
degree is earned. It has been suggested that an agricultural student on gradua- 
tion should get the degree of agricultural engineer, 'which perhaps would be 
abbreviated A E In other words, there is a tendency, I think, in some quarters 
to regard agricultural work as strictly professional work. I should think that 
unwise. I should prefer to give a general B. S. degree with the subordinate 
designation. 
Mr. Thach. We have been established for some time as a scientific school. 
We have four or five courses in engineering, a course in agriculture and chem- 
istry combined, one in chemistry, and one in mining engineering; in all, about 
eight specific courses. We confer only one degree absolutely, and that is 
bachelor of science. We regard that as specific and thoroughly well differen- 
