thanks was extended to this committee for 
its efficient work. 
An extended discussion followed this re- 
port : 
“Assuming that all these conditions ex- 
ist, can such a mausoleum be erected so 
as to be a profitable venture? What effect 
would it have upon the sale of lots? 
Would the crypt buyers be likely to buy 
lots for monuments also?” 
Mr. Green — That would depend largely 
upon local conditions. 
Mr. Wallis — The able paper just read by 
Mr. Carter voices my sentiments exactly. 
We are building a community mausoleum 
at Rosehill. It has not affected the sale of 
lots thus far, but I expect that it will. My 
personal opinion is that if Rose Hill had 
it to do over again, they would not start 
to build one. We have started, however, 
and are going to build a good one with 
1,500 catacombs. I am not prepared to 
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to sell them burial lots. He said that many 
of the people he brought there, to see this 
community mausoleum would have nothing 
to do with, it, but that he was able to sell 
over fifty cemetery lots to those people. 
Mr. Stuart — We have one of these in Syra- 
cuse. The sale of lots has more than dou- 
bled on account of it. People come to 
the cemetery out of curiosity to see the 
community mausoleum. Then they buy 
lots. 
Mr. Boone — We have sold fewer lots in 
our cemetery in Syracuse since the com- 
munity mausoleum was built. 
Mr. Hart — We are up against a proposi- 
tion in which several of our best citizens 
want a community mausoleum. If this is 
built they will never buy lots, otherwise 
they will. There has been a small one 
near us and it has been an aggravation for 
several years. 
Mr. Medary — It has not affected the sale 
of lots so far, but it undoubtedly will do 
so. I agree with the report on one point 
in particular. The demand for this kind 
of burial is being made by promoters. They 
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Mr. Olsen — -We had a promoter in our 
town for three months trying to interest 
the people in buying crypts. They were 
not to start’ building until they had sold a 
certain number. He did succeed in sellin 
some of the wealthiest men in town but h 
failed to start the building because most 
of the people were not in favor of it. 
NEW MEMBERS. 
The Committee on Credentials reported 
the following applications for membership, 
which were accepted : 
B. F. Potts, assistant superintendent 
Elmlawn, Buffalo, N. Y. 
W. H. Gleason, superintendent Mountain 
View, Shrewsbury, Mass. 
E. F. Lundenstrom, superintendent Elm- 
wood, Birmingham, Ala. 
say whether or not it will be a financial 
success. 
Mr. Rutherford — I would like to ask if 
this is being built by the Cemetery Asso- 
ciation and under what patents. 
Mr. Wallis — No patents except the arch- 
itect’s plan. 
Mr. Laudes — I would like to know what 
excuse there is for calling some of these 
structures “community mausoleums.” They 
should more properly be called “promoters' 
mausoleums.” 1 do not see the connection 
between the two. The promoters are not 
communists. They are individuals finan- 
cially interested in a money-making prop- 
osition. Only one per cent of the total 
is animated by any other purpose. We 
are not interested in the community mau- 
soleum. 
Mr. Druckemiller — The report states that 
there should be a maintenance endowment 
of 50 per cent of the cost. How much will 
this add to the price of each crypt? 
Mr. Carter — The object of this commit- 
tee was to bring the matter out in prin- 
ciple, not in price. Judging by the amounts 
of previous endowments, nearly the whole 
of the endowment should be added to the 
price of the crypts. For instance, crypts 
that have been sold for $150 should be in- 
creased to $300. 
Mr. Druckemiller — According to that the 
endowment would double the cost. Then if 
we add to this the amount necessary to 
build them properly instead of the way 
they have been built, the increase would 
be about 250 per cent on each crypt. A 
structure of this sort cannot be properly 
built and properly endowed t’o make it a 
financial success. 
Mr. Benson — I insist upon attention be- 
ing given to my previous question. How 
is it to affect the cemetery? Is there 
anyone here who has had this experience? 
Mr. Lawson — I have had no personal ex- 
perience in this matter and what evidence 
I can give is merely hearsay, from informa- 
tion received from a salesman for a' com- 
munity mausoleum proposition. He told 
me of experience he had in an Ohio city. 
According to his arrangement with the 
cemetery association there, he was to take 
people to the cemetery and if unable to 
sell them crypt's he was then to endeavor 
go to some persons who have never heard 
of it before and it will appeal to some of 
them, especially to a foreign population. 
Mr. Laudes — Theory and practice are two 
different things. The community mauso- 
leum is theory. Earth burial is practice. 
I believe that foreigners in particular de- 
mand earth burial. That is the custom 
in all of the old countries and they want 
it here. Promoters have brought it before 
us as a theory, but the people will not ac- 
cept it. The Bible teaching of “ashes to 
ashes, earth to earth and dust to dust” ap- 
peals to us and it always will. 
Mr. Roy — I would like to ask Mr. Wallis 
what his charge is per crypt and the ap- 
proximate cost per crypt. Is there much 
profit in crypts? 
Mr. Wallis — We charge $300 per crypt. 
We cannot tell about the profit as the 
foundation only has been built. It is a 
mistake for any cemetery to build a com- 
munity mausoleum if it has plenty of 
ground. We have some private rooms that 
sell for $5,000. 
Mr. Druckemiller — What are you to do 
about maintenance endowment? 
Mr. Wallis — That will be provided for. 
Mr. Broughton — A representative of a 
mausoleum company recently came to me 
about a patented process for taking care of 
bodies. He called it the dissicating process. 
He told me he had been in correspondence 
with our secretary, Mr. Lawson, about it. 
Does anybody know anything about this? 
Mr. Lawson — That is the first I have 
heard of it. 
Mr. Broughton — I have no use for this 
community mausoleum. 
Mr. Rutherford- — I am convinced that a 
cemetery association cannot conduct a com- 
munity mausoleum at a profit. 
Mr. Roy — Plenty of white elephant's like 
this have been unloaded onto cemetery as- 
sociations. These companies come into a 
town and without putting up any capital 
at all, take subscriptions and make the 
people furnish all the money. In one case 
I was told they collected $350,000 and the 
cost of the structure was $42,000, including 
an endowment of $2,000 for perpetual main- 
tenance. In St. Catherine’s they went out 
of town with $300,000, and left the white 
elephant with the people. 
E. A. Sloan, superintendent, Marion, O. 
C. R. Woodward, deputy superintendent 
Lake View, Cleveland, O. 
P. J. Caldwell, superintendent Cedar 
Grove, Dorchester Center, Mass. 
John G. Borgstede, president Ferncliff, 
3230 Third avenue, New York. 
Alex. Hanton, superintendent Elmwood 
and Elope, Barre, Vt. 
C. D. Benson, president Woodlawn, Mi- 
ami, Fla. 
Fred Kershiner, superintendent Shenan- 
go Valley, Greenville, Pa. 
D. S. Thurber, superintendent Swan 
Point, Providence, R. I. 
George D. Brown, superintendent Moun- 
tain View, Pasadena, Cal. 
A. L. Scott, superintendent Mount Mun- 
cie, Leavenworth, Kan. 
August D. Walker, superintendent Oak- 
wood, Niagara Falls, N. Y. 
Carl E. Kern, assistant superintendent 
Spring Grove, Cincinnati, O. 
C. E. Stringer, superintendent Gracelawn, 
Flint, Mich. 
H. H. Hart, superintendent Oakland, In- 
diana, Pa. 
S. E. Templeton, superintendent Mt. 
Hope, Morgan Park, 111. 
F. H. Smith, superintendent Rome, Rome 
N. Y. 
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