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GLEANINGS IN BEE CULTURE. 
Sept. 
more surplus y ct as wo generally have a good yield 
of full honey, the country being yellow with golden- 
vod alter the middle of Aug. This is only my third 
roar at Beekeeping, and all J know i have learned 
by reading and observation, and no one to go to for 
information, for movable comb hives are as scarce as 
“chicken’s teeth.” 1 have about 1100 lbs. of White clo- 
ver and 450 of Fruit blossom honey, and if I can sell 
ih is readily I will go deeper still. 
C. 11. Rue, Manalapan, N. J. Aug. 6th ’74. 
No. 
May J 
.li* 
! Jim 
• J l>: « l 
Jul j 
\ Jul { jul 2 Jul 
J Aug 
Total 
hive 
30 | 
11 
1 21 
1 27 1 
8 
9 | 18 | 25 
1 4 
i each. 
! lbs. 
304 
1 | 
I 
! i * 
3* 
20 * 
31# 
35* 
58 52* 73 
27*: 
2 
7 * 
2* 
12* 
20# 
37 
36* 34 60 
24* 
242 
3 
6.Vf 
4* 
18‘.t 
32# 
43* 
44 31 90 
27 ; 
296* 
4 
0 
16 
28* 
19 , 
43 33 65 
13 
229 
r, 
6 
4 
11) 
44# 
« i 
43* 35 60 
13 
270* 
Tofc’l 
27 
17* 
85 % 
158* 130 
225 190* 348 
110 ; 
1342 
each Spring I Clover and I Basswood. 
* ln £ honey. | Raspberry. | 
day. | Average yield per hive 203 2-5 lbs. 
Editor Gleanings: The above is what I have 
done this season with live, 32 (Kidder) frame, Gallup 
hives and Italian bees. As von perceive, bees did not 
gather much until the middle of June, the spring be- 
ing very cold and backward here. The secret of large 
yields of honey is to keep strong stocks. I have just 
put division boards in the center of 4 hives and intend 
jo have V) swarms If they keep strong enough, as 1 gave 
them an entrance at each end of the hive. The divi- 
sion boards are perforated and covered with wire- 
cloth thus giving the two swarms the heat of one. I 
want 13c for my honey which is very thick and nice. 
Wm. H. S. Grout, Poland Centre, Chaut. Co., N. V. 
Thanks for your very complete report. We 
fear we shall become converged to 32 frame 
hives, but from Quinby’s report are we not at 
liberty to consider a two story arrangement of 
them, at least equally as good, as a horizontal ? 
Is it not possible that the approaching hive is 
to be double width, and two story, whatever 
may be the frame? can no one furnish a report 
from a similar hive composed of 40 Langstroth 
frames? Kidder frame is 14 by 12 we think. 
Be careful of wire-cloth on division boards, 
see page 74 July No. 
FRIEND NOVICE: I fear you will often have j 
cause to be disappointed by my mistakes and short- ' 
comings, since to err, you know, is human. But were i 
you not “putting it on pretty thick” in expecting me 
to report 100 lbs. to the hive, which is, perhaps, nearly 
double the average amount reported in Gleanings 
for July? 
We have less white clover this season than I have 
ever known, as it was nearly all killed last winter, 
and the same may be said of red, in this neighborhood. 
Two miles north or here there is considerable red 
clover and nearly all the clover honey we have came 
from there. However I will do the best I can, and if 
I fail to reach the standard you have set up for me, 
please don’t, “view me with a critic’s eye etc.” 
But is extracted honey really so much more profit- 
able than box, in all places, and under all circum- 
stances? With your permission I will give a little of 
my experience. Three years ago 1 hod a pretty severe 
attack of “extractor on the brain” and determined to 
surprise the natives, by the amount of honey I would 
obtain from some of my bees. So in the spring I se- 
lected a number of my very best stocks, and as soon 
as they needed more room I put on the upper story, 
filled with empty combs, and as last as they filled 
their hives with honey I extracted it. 
Now for the result. The most honey I obtained 
from any one of them was 163 lbs. while several 
swarms that I let “fool away their lime on box honey” 
yielded over 120 lbs. each ; and from one stock that 
swarmed twice, and the swarms that came from it, I 
obtained 216 lbs. of box honey. Isold the extracted 
at 13. and the box at 25 cts. per lb. The account 
would stand about as follows: 
216 lbs. box honey@25c $54.00 
168 “ extracted “18 30.24 
Diflcronce in favor of box honey $23.76 
or, adding value of the two swarms, $15.00 each. . .30.00 
853.76 
Now, in view of the above, I hope I may be pardon- 
ed If I am somewhat skeptical in regard to the advan- 
tages of extracted over box honey. Where the yield 
of noncy comes with a rush, for instance, where it !.*> 
nearly all basswood, I have no doubt the use ol' the 
extractor will prove most profitable, but where the 
yield is gradual, lasting a long time, as it generally 
does with us, 1 have, as yet, seen nothing to prove 
that the use of the extractor will yield most, profit 
here, especially when we take in consideration tlu* 
difference in the demand. Dealers come a distance of 
ten or twelve miles and take away the box honey, but 
the extracted 1 have to carry to them, and then find ll 
dull sale. I believe in building up a home market, 
hence, try to furnish what there is a call for. 
James Bohn, West Lodi, O. Aug. 12th, 1374. 
There, friend B., we had suspected you of 
heresy before ; however, we are content to let 
you work out your own reformation as the rest 
of the bee-keeping world are doing rapidly. 
A I ROOT & Co :— I must say a word further in regard 
to what was called errors in judgement. I had said 
in circular that we had extracted 361 lbs in one sea- 
son, from one hive, and over 200 lbs box honey; and 
intimated that even this amount might he exceeded. 
Part of such result was attributed to giving abundant 
room in the hive. Capt. Hetlierington, Cherry Valley, 
N. Y., will reach this amount ot box honey from a 
hive— I will venture to say, from 100 hives— this sea- 
son. Mr. P. Ehvood, Starkville, Herkimer Co., N.Y., 
hud one stock last spring— in Quinby hive- -the Queen 
of the family came from you. Began with eight combs. 
As the center ones became filled with brood, they 
were moved toward the outside, and the empty 
ones put In their place, till sixteen were full, on the 
bottom board ; and then another course was placed 
directly over them, and the bees had increased to oc- 
cupy the whole.No brood had been taken from them to 
assist others; neither did they have assistance from 
others. He commenced extracting before they had 
accumulated much, and kept the date of each time, 
and anjounl obtained -will give them at another time . 
1 only remember the product of two days -57 V lbs. 
In the aggregate, 502 lbs. I visited him Aug. 11th. 
Before that day he had taken 440 lbs. This was so 
extraordinary that I expressed a wish to see how 
much was accumulated since the last was taken. To 
accommodate me and some others present, he let us 
witness his taking 62 lbs. All up to that time was 
white honey, Buckwheat was just beginning to yield. 
What it will amount to is yet to be seen. The crop is 
promising, and usually amounts to half or two thirds 
ns much as the white honey. It seems safe to esti- 
mate over 300 lbs. that this one hive will give in one 
season. The parts relating to what he already has, 
can be substantiated beyond dispute. When this a- 
mount can be obtained "from any hive except one on 
this principle, I would like to know it; your readers 
would also. 
M. Quinby, St JohnsviUe, N. V. Aug. 21st, 1874. 
Lest it might appear we had a position to 
defend, we will submit the question to our 
readers whether this great result is to be at- 
tributed to the hive, locality, their owner, or 
the queen. Weave much obliged indeed to 
Mr. Q. for the reports, but we really should 
have liked with them, a report also of the rest 
of the Apiary. Capt. Hetlierington lias, or 
had, near 1000 colonies, and Mr. Ehvood, as 
nearly as we can determine, about 200; what 
the rest did, and the general average, jt seems 
to us should lie given with the above to pre- 
vent mistaken impressions. Reports have been 
given in Gleanings nearly if not quite equal 
to the above, and with a diversity of hives. 
Is it not much due to plenty of empty combs 
and an intelligent but stay; if the Queen 
came from us ’twas certainly a “dollar Queen,” 
and Gallup, and some others, say that “dollar 
Queens’* Why can we not rear such Queens 
every time, and get such crops of honey from 
every hive? Truly perfection belongs not to 
bee-keepers, any more than to mankind gener- 
ally. We gave directions for making a mam- 
moth hive similar to the one described by Mr. 
Q., on page 37, Vol. 1. 
