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but it seems that it continues' to come up. Nobody seems anxious to bring 
it up except one or two gentlemen. 
Mr. President, if, in the discussion of this matter, I have shown a little 
more earnestness than the occasion seemed to require, it is because it does 
seem to me there should be an end to these cavillings sometime. This 
whole subject was fought out before Congress, and everyone had fullest 
opportunity to argue for and against the Bill. The time has now come 
when we, as fruit growers and business men, should get together and labor 
whole heartedly for the upbuilding of the apple trade in the East along 
practical business lines. Failing in this, we go down to inevitable defeat 
before the tremendous fruit crops of the near future. 
Discussion. 
Mr. Watrous: I want to say that I have been interested this morning 
at the earnestness that has manifested itself here; and I have been grati- 
fied to hear the law explained in this candid fashion. I' have been interested 
in this Society a great many years, a fruit grower a great many years, and 
for years have thought what an advantge it would be if some of the com- 
mittees that endeavored to secure remedial legislation would try to get 
some sort of a law passed to make honest men out of men that were not 
honest — or to get just a few that were honest. (Laughter.) 
This last summer I spent a couple of weeks in London, and three years 
ago I was over in the East Indies; and I have found we cannot have such 
a perfect world as we would like, for men’s hearts are where their profits 
are, in the East or in the West. There are very few people with whom I 
find it perfectly easy to discuss such things frankly; with whom I feel 
perfectly at liberty to speak of the looseness with which firms do business; 
and in different parts of the foreign business world it seems as if they make it 
a point to hold up our shortcomings in such way that they know we cannot 
exactly answer with satisfaction. Now a few years ago, even in the matter 
of the dairying and creamery business there were instances where the milk 
put on the market was as free of cream as Satan is of piety, and the milk- 
men did all sorts of things to make more money. 
But, I have been encouraged here to think that we are on the way to 
better things. And I hope that this Sulzer law may be amended in the near 
future so that there may be a grade that shall declare that there shall be 
no bad apples at all — so that we may hold up our heads and get the thing 
into good shape in some particulars where it has been pretty weak before. 
(Applause.) 
President Goodman: Any suggestions to offer as to the amendment of 
this Sulzer law? If you have anything along that line, all right; but we want 
to have no more of this other discussion. 
Mr. Woods.- I think this proposition of radical amendment is the only 
way and will give a very good beginning, it being necessary since all men 
are not honest. I have tried to bring this matter to your attention without 
any personalities. If there are features to be corrected, why should not 
we have them corrected? If things require that we get a better grading of 
