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Mr. Kenneth Cornish asked if Mr. Cornish was in 
favour of legislation for the preservation of mackerel ? 
Referring to what had been said in regard to the pursuit 
of herrings and mackerel by porpoises, he might say that 
he witnessed a very remarkable sight at Teignmouth in the 
year i860. In walking along the sea wall they saw a great 
commotion in the sea, a mile out, and watching it, they 
soon found a shoal of salmon running in, pursued by a 
shoal of large grampuses, who drove the unfortunate 
salmon right against the wall. They seized the salmon in 
their jaws, threw them up, and caught them like a terrier 
would a rat, and when the salmon turned and went out to 
sea again, they pursued them. He should like to know if 
Mr. Cornish thought it possible to catch these cetacea, seals 
and other animals that preyed on salmon, herrings, and 
mackerel, by the use of spinning bait on a large scale ? It 
seemed to him we were thinning down the fish, but not 
thinning down their natural enemies. It would not be at 
all difficult to make baits which would exactly represent a 
salmon, mackerel, or herring, with hooks concealed inter¬ 
nally ; and they might even be impregnated with the 
natural flavour of the fish. 
Mr. CORNISH, in reply, said, as far as his experience 
went, he did not think legislation was required with respect 
to a close time for mackerel or pilchards ; they took a close 
time for themselves and got away where they could not be 
caught. Further legislation was very desirable for the 
purpose of regulating the fishing of our own boats in British 
waters ; and even if what legislation there was were better 
enforced, it would be of great importance. With regard to 
catching porpoises, he should not like to tackle one weighing 
more than 2 cwt. in a small boat. 
Mr. SHAW, M.P., in moving a vote of thanks to Mr. 
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