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JOURNAL OF HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER . 
[ February 19, 1885. 
3till contains some three hundred varieties of Hybrid Perpetual?, Hybrid 
Teas, and Bourbons, and ninety varieties of Teas and Noisettes, which 
have all proved themselves capable of producing winning exhibition 
flowers ; and the number of Tea plants is only one-fifth of the whole 
number of Rose trees that I grow. 
I have not yet quite unravelled “ J. H P.’s” question, but I th ; nk I 
ean best answer it by referring him to the schedule of the exhibition 
which heads the list of those he quotes against me ; for in the Crystal Palace 
schedule for 1881 (as in that for the coming season of 1885), Classes 8, 
25, and 27 are devoted to twenty-four trebles, twenty-four and twelve 
H.P.’s only, respec ively, affording exactly a case in point. Taking the 
1881 schedule, the combined value of the first prizes in Classes 25 and 27 
for thirty-six H.P.’s only, is exactly double that of the first prize in 
Class 28 for thirty-six Teas and Noisettes only ; while the amount of all 
the prizes offered for the thirty-six H.P.’s is to that offered for the thirty- 
six Teas as 16 to 7. However, 1 cannot any longer point out this exhibi¬ 
tion as offering even half the sum for Teas as H.P.’s, for this year the 
prizes in Class 28 are made equal to those in Class 27, so that the guerdon 
®f the Tea or Noisette is reduced to one-third of that of the H.P. Is 
“ J. H. P.” really prepared to maintain that one bloom of any H.P. he 
can name is worth three such blooms of Comtesse de Nadaillac as were 
seen in Class 28 for Teas and Noisettes this year ? 
By all means let the “ backbone” be considered, but let the anatomy 
be completed by well-proportioned and graceful limbs. 
The suggestion made in his sympathetic article by “ Y. B. A. Z.” that 
the supposed delicacy of Teas was induced by the use of Manetti as a 
stock, is interesting and plausible ; and perhaps the belief may have been 
fostered by the amount of dead wood that often has to be cut cut at 
pruning time. For Teas growing both late and early always have a good 
many sappy unripened growths, which are killed by the frost, and give 
the plants the appearance of being half dead ; but the ripened shoots are 
as safe as those of the H.P.’s, which, from the absence of unripened wood, 
do not appear to have been injured, and are therefore thought to be 
hardier. 
Apropos of the small number of exhibitors in the Tea classes, I 
wonder whether “Y. B. A. Z.” read in the “ Rusarian’s Year Book” for 
1884 Mr. Gray’s remarks on the Tea Roses exhibited at South Ken¬ 
sington. That an exhibitor’s Teas are often put into the seventy-two or 
forty-eight is quite true, but only proves what fine blooms of this class of 
Roses can be grown, and is an additional argument in favour of encou- 
raging by all possible means the cultivation of sufficient numbers to 
supply both classes. For the sameness of colour that “ Y. B. A. Z.” hints 
at as an objection is due to the fact that the Teas still supply us with the 
best of our light Roses, and it is the very softness an i refinement of 
colour pervading an extensive display of these delicately tinted Roses 
that induces the enthusiasm of spectators, many of whom, there is little 
doubt, following the lead of so great an authority as “ D., Deal," consider 
that a dark beauty like Souvenir de TherDse Levet should be but little 
encouraged as a “ person of colour.” As for an H.P. producing more 
exhibition blooms than a Tea, probably the Rose that most people would 
cite would be La France ; but it must be remembered that this Rose is a 
hybrid Tea, and doubtless owes its floriferousness to its Tea parentage, as 
js the case also with that ever-flowering autumnal, Jules Finger. With this 
exception, however, I think I should be prepared to back, say, Marie 
Van Houtte, Perle des Jardins, Etoile de Lyon, Caroline Kuster, or 
Madame Lambard against a majority of H.P.’s. I can certainly bear 
witness to tbe lasting qualities of Tea Roses, for even in so hot a season 
as the past summer one bloom succeeded in occupying a place in a prize 
stand at three successive shows, while several flowers made two appear¬ 
ances. 
Is it not among the Teas that we find the sweetest of Roses ? (the 
wffiole army of “France” rises instantly to arms)—but if he be not 
already an old friend, as “ Y. B. A. Z.” likes colour in Tea Roses com- 
omed with the most delicious fragrance for his exceeding delectation, let 
him cultivate especially Socrates.— Theta. 
I hope the letter on Rose-showing “Especially Teas ” by “ Theta ” 
will induce Rose societies and their managers to give more prizes for Teas. 
Society will lead the way. I think with “ Theta ” 
ihe Teas do not have fair play in Rose schedules at present. They are the 
gems of the Rose, more expensive to buy, and most difficult to breed, but 
o do not think they are more difficult to grow than the H.P. (that is if 
King r rest lets them alone). My experience is they only want good 
treatment, and I begin to think the less pruning they have the better, and 
then on such plants as Marie Van Houtte, Anna Ollivier, Madame 
Lombard, Caroline Kuster, &c., you will have a wealth of bloom all the 
summer.—G. M. 
CINERARIAS AT CHRISTMAS. 
WELL-FLOWEKED Cinerarias are pleasing at all times, but large plants 
at Christmas and during the winter are of tbe greatest value. Last 
Christmas, and since then, we have had a number of Cineraiias in full 
bloom, and we shall always try to have some at the same season. It 
almost seems a pity to cut showy flowers at a time when they are so 
scarce, but we often want flowers in rooms where pots cannot be em 
ployed, and as the Cinerarias give so much satisfaction we never hesitate 
* n arraD g' n o them in a cut state we do not mix them with 
other flowers, but generally cut a good truss with some leaves attached, 
and place each one in a small glass tube by itself. 
To have Cinerarias in flower at Christmas the seed should be sown in 
February, or at the latest not after the beginning of March; indeed early 
sowing is the only secret connected with Christmas fl iwering. A pinch 
of seed sown in a 6 or 8-inch pot will produce several dozen plants, and 
these should be grown on in unheated sunny frames in summer, shading 
only from the brightest sunshine. Good plants will be secured by the 
end of September, when they should be placed in a temperate p't or house 
where they will have the benefit of a little artificial heat and fresh air, 
and this will soon induce them to form flower buis and massive trusses of 
richly coloured flowers. They must be kept free from insects, and should 
never at any time be confined in a close atmosphere.—M. M. 
THE LEADING PANSIES OF THE DAY. 
We asked twenty-five of the leading amateur and gardener growers 
who compete so successfully at our great Pansy shows to furnish us with 
the names of what they consider the best twenty-four Fancy Pansies, the 
best eight Show dark seifs, the best five Show white seifs, the best five 
Show yellow self->, the best nine Show white grounds, and the best nine 
Show yellow grounds. We think the result will be of interest to hundreds 
of your readers. We have given the number of Fancies up to thirty-six, 
so as to correspond with the Shows.—W m. Paul & Sox, Paisley. 
FANCY PANSIES. 
No. 
Names. 
No. of 
Votes. 
No 
I 
Names. 
1 
No. of 
Votes. 
1 
Mav Tate (Laird it Son-i)... 
25 
19 
1 
,Mrs. .T. Stewart (Paul). 
10 
2 
W. Cuthbertson (Dobbie) 
25 
20 
Mrs. J. Downie (Sutherland, 
10 
3 
Catherine Agnes (Dobbie) 
25 
21 
Mrs. Goodwin (Dobbie). 
10 
4 
Miss B.iss (Do wnie it Laird) 
24 
22 
Mrs. Storrie (Paul). 
9 
5 
Evelyn Bruce (McComb) ... 
23 
23 
|Charlie Stansell (Stansell) 
9 
6 
Jas. Gardener (Downie and 
24 
IPeifection (Dick-on & Co.) 
9 
Laird). 
22 
25 
.Mrs. Barrie (Downie and 
7 
Mrs. Eindlav (Samson). 
22 
Laird). 
8 
8 
Mrs. T. McComb (McComb) 
21 
26 
Ruby (Laird it Sons). 
8 
9 
Mrs. Jamieson (Downie and 
27 
Mrs. Forrester (Downie and] 
Laird). 
21 
Laird). 
8 
10 
Mrs. G. P. Frame (Weir) ... 
20 
28 
David Wallace (Stswait) ... 
8 
11 
Bob Montgomery (Paul) ... 
19 
29 
Earl Beaconsfield (Sam-on) 
8 
12 
Craigforth (Brodie) . 
19 
30 
Mrs. Duncan (Robertson)... 1 
6 
13 
Endymion (VV. Dickson) ... 
18 
31 
Bessie St wart (Paul) . 
5 
14 
Miss J. Orkney (Dobbie) ... 
16 
32 
Maggie Weir (Frew). 
5 
15 
Mrs. W. Stewart (Stewart) 
15 
33 
Mrs. Sword (Sutherland) ... 
5 
16 
David Saunders (Paul). 
12 
34 
Flora Gem (Matheson) . 
5 
17 
John Gold (Weir) . 
12 i 
35 1 
A. Macmillan (Dobbie). i 
5 
18 
Agnes Mitchell (Paul) . 
10 1 
36 1 
Robert Godwin (Dobbie) ... 
5 
SHOW PANSIES. 
Dark Selfs. 
White Grounds. 
1 
Rev. J. Morrison (Taylor) 
25 
! 1 
Mrs. J. G. Paul (Paul). 
24 
9 
D. Malcolm (Cuthbtrtson) 
23 
2 
Mrs. James Millar (Paul)... 
24 
3 
Peter Lvle (Paul) . 
19 1 
3 
J. Foote (Downie & Laird). 
24 
4 
Mauve Queen (Paul). 
is : 
4 
Miss Ritchie (Dobbie) . 
19 
5 
Andrew Miller (Paul). 
17 
5 
Miss Barr (Robertson) . 
18 
6 
Crosshill Gem (—). 
14 
6 
Jeanie Grieve (Dicksons 
Harry Paul (Paul). 
13 
and Co.). 
18 
8 
Alexr. Watt (Paul) . 
11 
7 
Miss Meikle (Paul) . 
14 
8 
Mrs. Stewart (Stewart). 
8 
White Selfs.. 
9 
Miss Baird (Paul) . 
6 
1 
Mrs. Galloway (Paul) . 
23 
2 
Mrs. Dobbie (Dobbie) . 
23 
Yellow Grounds. 
3 
Mrs. Cadzow (Dobbie) . 
22 
4 
Mrs. Turnbull (Dobbie) ... 
21 
1 
D. Dalglish (Robertson) ... 
25 
5 
Mrs. Goodall (Paul) . 
13 
2 
\V iiliam Robin (Paul) . 
22 
3 
J. B. Robertson (Robertson 
20 
Yellow Selfs. 
4 
Robei t Pollock (Paul) . 
15 
5 
Lizzie Bullock (Sutherland) 
15 
1 
Gomar (Ross) . 
25 
6 
Lord F .Cavendish (Robert- 
9 
G. McMillan (Dobbie) . 
24 
son) . 
13 
3 
W. Crockart (Dobbie) . 
24 
7 
Thomas Ritchie (Robertson) 
12 
4 
Lizzie Stewart (Dicksons’ 
8 
Bailie Cochrane (Dickson) 
11 
and Co.). 
11 
9 
3-. S. Veitch (White). 
10 
5 
Golden Bee (Paul). 
6 
These results are obtain' d from returns furnished by J. S. Armstrong, 
Polton ; J. Black, East Calder; A. Borrowman, Beeslack ; W. Dick, Kirk- 
newton; W.'Dobbie, Alva (for Fancies); L. T. Fleming, Berwick; Jas. 
Galloway, Colinsburgh; Robert Goodwin, Kirkintilloch; Jas. Gowans, 
Hawick ; George Gray, Lesmahagow ; John Harper, Dreghorn (for Shows); 
A. Irvine, Tighnabruaich ; Peter Lyle, Kilbarchan ; Thos.- McComb, Monc¬ 
ross ; A. Miller, Blair Drummond; G. C. Murray, Carnwath; H. Poison, 
Galashiels; W. J. H. Ritchie, Denny; Geo. Ross, Laurencekirk; Robert 
Roy, Elderslie ; Jas. Skinner, Penicuik; Hugh Stewart, Ayr ; John Stewart, 
Lennoxtown; Robert Stewart, Lenzie; Wm. Storrie, Lenzie; and Robert 
White, Bathgate. 
Runner Bean (Girtford Giant).— This is the best of all Runner 
Beans, and is quite distinct. I know no old Bean to equal it, for it excels 
