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JOURNAL OF HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER. 
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in shade eleven, on grass nineteen. Total duration of sunshine, -ll'S hours, 
or IG per cent, of possible durat'on. We had thirteen sunless days. Sun¬ 
shine is very deficient, being less than two-thirds the average of the past 
three years. Total rainfall, 0-88 inch. Maximum fall in twenty-four hours 
on the Both, 0 23 inch. Rain fell on twelve days. The wind has blown from 
all points. Out of sixty observations, fourteen were calms. Average 
velocity, 9 8 miles per hour ; exceeded 400 miles on four days ; fell short 
of 100 miles on seven days. November is chiefly remarkable for its 
small rainfall, which is barely more than half that of any November in 
the last nine years. (The approximate average rainfall for November is 
1'97). This making the sixth dry month this year. The total fall since 
January is 17 86 inch. Temperature about the average, being above in 
the beginning and below in the latter part of the month.” 
- Royal Caledonian IIorticultural Society—Proposed 
Winter Show. —The annual meeting of this Society was held in Edin- 
burgh, December 4th, Mr. Downie presiding. Mr. P. Neil Fraser^ 
Treasurer, submitted an abstract of the accounts for the year ending 
30ch November last, from which it appeared that the income had amounted 
to £1551 and the expenditure to £1491, showing a surplus revenue of £11. 
The receipts included £469 from members’ subscriptions, and £1008 from 
the drawings at the spring, summer, and autumn shows, while the expend!" 
ture in connection with the shows was £633, and in prize money £753- 
on the 30th November the funds amounted to £1249, an increase of £43 as 
compared with last year. The report was considered very satisfactory, 
and on the motion of Mr. Dunn, seconded by Mr, Lament, was unani. 
mously adopted. Ofiice-bearers were then proposed and elected as 
follows :—President, the Marquis of Lrthian, in room of the late Duke of 
Buccleuch ; Vice-President, the Duke of Buccleuch, in place of Lord 
Balfour of Burleigh ; Members of Council, Councillor Clapperton, and Mr. 
John M‘Kinnon, Melville Castle Gardens; Secretary, Mr. John Stewart; 
Treasurer, Mr. Neil Fraser ; and Auditor, Mr. J. Turnbull Smith, C.A. 
The Chairman, in proposing that a Winter Chrysanthemum Show should 
be held by the Society, said that winter shows were held in various places 
throughout the country, and had proved very successful. Mr. Dunn 
Dalkeith, said he thought they could afford at least to try the experiment’ 
and with an open winter like that of last year there was little fear but 
that it would be successful. They would, of course, include autumn fruit 
and plants in the show. He moved that the Council be empowered to 
carry out the necessary arrangements for holding a winter show next year. 
It having been sta*e 1, in reply to a question, that the last winter show 
under the auspices of the Society took place about sixteen or eighteen 
years ago, Mr. Dunn’s motion was carried unanimously. 
CHRYSANTHEMUMS. 
Jeanne d’Arc and Madame Madeline Tezier.—As received in 
this country from the continent these are undoubtedly the same, but the 
variety is not very constant either in shape or colour, and this may pos¬ 
sibly account for the two names. “ T. H.” may safely dispel his fears as 
to Sir Beauchamp Seymour being identical with any old variety ; it is 
quite distinct, and a seedling raised in this country by Mr. James Salter. 
I should not like lo see Ben iigo discarded in haste. It certainly ought 
not to be shown as a distinct variety with Mabel Ward ; still the variety 
is a different sport, and I think another season will show it to be superior 
in colour and in petal if we give it a fair trial. If a sport shows 
superiority it deserves to rejdace the inferior one, as in the case of Mr. 
Bunn and Golden Beverley ; but this should be thoroughly tested before 
being sent out, and simply sent out as an improved strain, unless of 
course there is distinctness enough to perpetuate bith, as in the case of 
Golden Empress and Lord Alcester. 
Glancing at Mr. Murphy’s queries takes my memory back to the 
lessons Mr. M. wanted us to learn of the success of late-struck plants as 
compared with early-struck ones. H s experiments on this point seem to 
have ended in failure, as the Elaines he rpeaks of have not come to the per- 
ferction he evidently desired. Elaine, like jnost other Japanese varieties, 
will piroduce fine blooms from late-struck cuttings if they are skil¬ 
fully treated ; but for the majority of ordinary growers early-struck 
plants will prove the best it they wish to avoid “eyes.” Thtre is only 
one strain of Elaine, unless it is the improved form named Mrs. Marsham, 
and neither of these under proper treatment should produce “eyes” 
instead of fl irets in the centre. 
I do not quite follow Mr. Murphy’.s remarks on reflexed Chrysanthe¬ 
mums. La Neige in the ordinary way of groA-ing is a hybrid Pompon ; 
it might make a small reflexed flower if grown strongly, so would Mdlle. 
Marthe and one or tw’o ( tber Pompons, but they are better in their proper 
section. Mrs. Forsyth, or White Christine, is looked upon as one of the 
best types of reflexed Chrysanthemums, and it will be a long time befi^re 
those old favourites the Christines are surpassed. Soeur Melanie is not 
a reflexed flower, but what might be styled a Japanese Pompon or hybrid; 
La Vierge is a very beautiful reflexed flower, but early ; Lady Selborne 
is certainly not a reflexed variety. The best varieties of reflexed flowers 
are the Christines, Annie Salter, Dr. Sharpe, Emperor of China, King of 
the Crimsons, Felicity, Cloth of Gold, and Chevalier Domage when it does 
not incurve.—N. Davis, Cambertvell. 
We send you a bloom of Madame Madeline Tezier as we received it 
from Boucharlat. It is quite different from Jeanne d’Arc. It opens slightly 
incurved, but soon goes back, and we have classed it with reflexed flowers 
such as Christine. In all the catalogues it is a synonym of Jeanne d’Arc, 
which is evidently a mistake, as you will see from the enclosed leaf cut 
from a French catalogue. The bloom sent is evidently 833 (Mademoiselle 
Madeline Tezier) in the catalogue, totally distinct from 816 (Jeanne 
d’Arc) ; 833 has the appearance of a Christine style of flower, but will be 
much larger than that variety. There is a Madame Auguste Tezier, but 
that is a Japanese variety.— John Laing, Foreht Hill, 
[The bloom received from Mr. Laing has much the appearance of a 
re flexed variety and is quite distinct in that state from Jeanne d’Arc 
when well grown. In the catalogue sent Mademoiselle Madeline Tezier 
is described as “ very large and very full . . . perfectly imbricated . . . 
pure snow white.” Jeanne d’Arc is described as having “ a very large 
flower, snow white, with the reverse of the petals lilac.” Mr. Laing’s 
bloom is certainly not “ very large,” nor at all incurved, and the outer 
florets have a slight lilac tint. 
In answer to the inquiries of “T. H., Bristol," page 501, regarding 
the distinctness of the two above-named Chrysanthemums, I may say 
that until a few days since I thought them identical. The plant that 
produced the bloom of Jeanne d’Arc, which was figured in the Journal, I 
had from Messrs. T. Jackson & Sons, Kingston. About the same time 
last spring I had plants of Madame Madeline Tezier from another place. 
These also produced blooms similar in character to Jeanne d’Arc ; in fact, 
they were in all cases exact counterparts of each other in style of growth, 
colour of foliage, shape of flower and colour of the same, and as the one 
named Jeanne d’Arc corresponded with what I had previously seen under 
that name, I discarded the name of Madame M. Tezier and called all the 
plants by the former name. 
A few days since Messrs. J. Laing k Co., Forest Hill, sent me a bloom 
of their Madame Madeline Tezier, which is entirely different from the one 
I previously bad. It answers quite the descriptions in colour given by 
“ T. H.,” which is pure white, excepting that the bottom rows of florets 
have a laint tinge of colour; it is also quite different in shape from Jeanne 
d’Arc. Thus in my mind there are two dintinct varieties m substance as 
well as name.—E. Molyneux, Smanmore Parli. 
Bendigo and M.\bel Ward.— I am very glad to see the merits of this 
so-called Chrysanthemum Bendigo discussed in the pages of your valuable 
Journal, as doubtless many others are, in view of having the matter cleared 
up, so briefly give my experience of Bendigo. 
Having through the generosity of a fiiend received a rooted cutting 
last March, which was potted and grown with several other sorts, including 
Mabel Ward (the last-named I have grown since it was first sent out), all 
the plants were treated the same in every way up to the time of flowering, 
both Mabel Ward and Bendigo carrying three blooms each, and the flowers 
were from terminals, so that it will be seen that it was a fair trial to start 
with. The result was I felt somewhat disappointed, for as the blooms com¬ 
menced expanding they reallj' looked identical with each other, but when 
the flow'ers became fully developed the petals of Bendigo appeared rather 
broader than Mabel Ward, but 1 fail to mark any further oistinction than 
the above-named. So much they were alike in other ways that 1 did not 
think it would be a safe policy to place both on one stand when exhibiting 
at the Northampton Show on the 19 th an I 20th ult. Perhaps others who 
have tried it will give their experience, so that the whole affair may get 
well ventilated, for such things as this cause much contusion, and especi¬ 
ally wiih young beginners.—W. A. Walter, Lillingstone House, near 
Bucking hant. 
MUSCAT HAMBURGH. 
In response to the invitations given at page 387 respecting our treat¬ 
ment of the above-named Grape, I have much pleasure in stating that it 
is precisely the same as that which is generally accorded to Black Ham¬ 
burgh, with this difference, that when in flower we dust the bunches 
twice daily with a camel’s-hair brush for the purpose of ensuring a good 
“ set,” or, in other words, fertilisation. I may also further add that wc 
do not, as in the case of Black Hamburghs and other free “ setting ” 
varieties, content ourselves with one ihinning-out of the berries; we 
rather prefer to accomplish the work of thinning by examining the bunches 
twice or three times, always cutting out the smallest berries. By adopt¬ 
ing the above plan we rarely fail to secure well-shaped bunches of this 
very richly flavoured and high-class Grape.—J. Horsefield, Hegteshurg^ 
THE CAUSE OF MILDEW ON ROSES. 
This important subject, raised by your correspondent Mr. J. C. 
Clayton on page 435, is worthy of every consideration. I consider the 
remark made by “ C. W.,” that mildew is prevalent in cold wet summers, 
perfectly correct, for a low temperature with the atmosphere saturated 
with moisture is a sure cause. But this is by no means the only cause, 
and if we experienced many summers like the one just passed mildew 
w'ould be equally as prevalent. Roses generally have suffered more from 
