JOURNAL OF HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER. 
July 27, 1882.] 
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True, they apply plenty to begin with, hut the manure and 
water applied have the effect of making what is given very 
quickly disappear. If Mr. Taylor has impressed on every Vine- 
grower in the country that a little lime must be given periodi¬ 
cally to Vine borders, or it will be useless to give anything else, 
then he has added tons of fruit to the future annual produce, 
and an incalculable sum of money from being spent on new 
borders, and saved many a heart from aching. 
Your correspondent has applied the best manure without 
a doubt—a manure quite comparable to the generally em¬ 
ployed guano ; and if everybody can be made to understand 
that, money may be kept at home instead of being sent abroad. 
Money is draining away from the country in many directions 
that there is no necessity for. Mr. Taylor’s example, and espe¬ 
cially the result of the practice, will stop some of it. Until I 
see what is in the paper which is now in the Editor’s hands I 
will say no more, but only point out that, as the main substances 
in bones are abundantly present in the manure used by Mr. 
Taylor, the bones may be saved. If anything be wanted I 
should say it was potash. Possibly the other paper will make 
that apparent. 
In conclusion, let me hope Mr. Taylor will not be treated 
as he has treated other writers. He has, he says, never read 
an essay on Vine culture, and laid down the only book he ever 
took up on the subject whenever he found that he could not 
agree to all that was in it. Of all Mr. Taylor’s mistakes this 
was the greatest, and it might be worth while for him to read 
some even yet, if for no other purpose than finding out that he 
is not so unorthodox as he imagines. —Single-handed. 
I have read with great interest Mr. Taylor’s history of the 
Vines at Longleat, and now he has finished it I desire to thank 
him most heartily for the valuable instruction I have gained 
by studying it from beginning to end. I think we ought to 
be very grateful to him for so much valuable information.— 
A Young Gardener. 
THE ROSE ELECTION. 
Both in print and to myself privately the electors of 1881 
urged the propriety of separating the Teas and Noisettes from the 
Hybrid Perpetuals. I promised that the subject should be 
attended to; I therefore now put forward the plan for this year’s 
election. As regards Teas and Noisettes, placing the lesser first, 
the question I ask is the following :—Name what you consider in 
your own experience of their growth the best twenty Teas and 
Noisettes for exhibition purposes. Distinguish by some mark the 
best ten. 
As regards other Roses the question is—Name the best forty- 
eight varieties of Roses (excluding Teas and Noisettes) for exhi¬ 
bition purposes, as tested by your own experience. Distinguish 
by some mark the best and second best twelve. 
This election will be of more importance than any of its pre¬ 
decessors, as it will proceed strictly on the lines of the catalogue 
of the National Rose Society. The following Roses will therefore 
be considered similar, or at any rate “too much alike.” I, as 
returning officer, will permit the vote to be given to either variety, 
and will tabulate the results, but it must be distinctly understood 
that naming both will entail much extra trouble on myself, and 
perhaps disqualification on the voter. 
It will also save trouble to all if intending voters, who must be 
prizetakers at National Rose Society exhibitions or frequent prize¬ 
winners at local meetings, would write to me for a form to fill up. 
“TOO MUCH ALIKE” ROSES. 
TEAS AND NOISETTES. 
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Adam 
President 
Chromatella 
Cloth of Gold 
Devoniensis 
Climbing Devoniensis 
Madame Bravy 
Alba Rosea 
Josephine Mai ton 
Madame de Sertot 
Charles Lefebvre 
Marguerite Brassac 
Paul Jamain 
Duchesse de Caylns 
Penelope Mayo 
Eugenie Verdier 
Marie Finger 
Mardchal Vaillant 
Avocat Duvivier 
HYBRID PERPETtTAI.S, &.C. 
( Marie Rady 
( Comtesse de Choiseul 
'Maurice Bernardin 
Exposition de Brie 
Ferdinand de Lesseps 
. Sir Garnet Wolseley 
( Mons. Boncenne 
(Baron de Bonstetten 
( Prince Camille de Rohan 
t La Rosifere 
All lists of votes must be returned to me at latest by the last 
day in August, and the result of the poll will appear in the 
Journal of Horticulture in October. 
It is also necessary to remind all electors that the Hybrid Tea 
Roses cannot be classed amongst the Teas and Noisettes.— 
Joseph Hinton, Warminster. 
BIRMINGHAM ROSE SHOW. 
This Show was held on Thursday the 13th of July in the Aston 
Lower Grounds, about two miles from the centre of Birmingham. 
The public expected to find a larger collection of Roses staged, but 
owing to the bad weather, which was very general throughout the 
south, west, east, and midlands, Messrs. B. R. Cant and F. Cant of 
Colchester; Messrs. Keynes, Salisbury; Messrs. Davison & Co., 
Hereford, telegraphed the previous afternoon to the effect that the 
rain, and in some of these districts the hail, prevented them from finish¬ 
ing the cutting of their blooms. Doubtless, too, Manchester Show 
on the following day, and Wirral on the Saturday, had something to 
do with the smallness of the Show. If, however, it was a somewhat 
poor Show as regards quantity, the public were rewarded by the ex¬ 
cellent quality of the Roses. The colour was excellent, and in size, 
form, and substance both amateurs’ and nurserymen’s exhibits were 
good. It was most interesting to see Roses, many of which were 
fit for any stand, grown within two and three miles of the centre of 
Birmingham. We have been taught that it is useless trying to grow 
Roses in smoke, but it is not so. Mr. Griffiths and Mr. Rickards of 
Edgbaston staged blooms of most excellent quality ; but I must now 
give the results. 
Nurserymen. —For seventy-two single trusses Messrs. Paul & Son, 
Cheshunt, were first; Cranston’s Company a very close second. In 
the first collection I noticed as very good, Francois Michelon, 
Marie Baumann, Duke of Edinburgh, Beauty of Waltham, Capitaine 
Christy, Horace Yernet, Madame Eugenie Yerdier, A. K. Williams, 
Annie Wood, Le Havre, and a very excellent White Baroness. 
In Cranston’s Company’s collection there were superb blooms 
as follows :—Comtesse d’Oxford, Countess of Rosebery, Alfred Colomb, 
Mrs. H. Turner, glorious colour ; Emilie Hausburg, and Royal 
Standard so caHed, but without a doubt another Emilie Hausburg; 
Lady Suffield exceeding pretty, and A. K. Williams. For thirty-six 
trebles Messrs. Paul & Son were again first, and Cranston’s Company 
second. In Messrs. Paul’s stand, Gbnbral Jacqueminot, A. K. Williams, 
H. Yernet, Duke of Teck, and Due de Rohan were grand. While the 
second-prize stand had very well represented, Emilie Hausburg, 
Charles Darwin, Mrs. Jowitt, Abel Carriere, magnificent; Mons. 
Eugene Delaire, a very distinct new dark Rose, not large but colour 
very good; and Mons. Noman. Twenty-four trebles, Cranston’s 
Company were first, there being no other entry in this class. 
The classes open only to nurserymen residing in the three shires of 
Warwick, Worcester, and Stafford, Messrs. Perkins & Sons of Coven¬ 
try staged some very good Roses. In the open classes they would 
have run the larger nurserymen closely. In the twenty-four single 
trusses this firm exhibited a truss of Abel Carriere consisting of a very 
large and perfect bloom surrounded by no less than six buds. In 
this class Mr. F. Perkins of Leamington was second, and Mr. Wm. 
Bryant, Rugby, third. In the twelve trebles and twelve singles the 
same order was observed. 
Amateurs. —For thirty-six singles Mr. Whitwell of Darlington was 
first with a stand of very superior blooms to that which won the 
challenge trophy at South Kensington on the 4th inst. These thirty- 
six glorious blooms were in the opinion of the Judges quite equal to 
the stands staged in years past by Messrs. R. N. G. Baker and T. 
Jowitt, “the great twin brothers.” Certainly Mr. Whitwell is to be 
congratulated upon his success ; every bloom was large, not one 
coarse. If it rained and hailed elsewhere it could not have done so 
at Darlington, for Mr. Whitwell’s Madame Lacharme was the finest 
I have seen for many years. Where all were so good it seems 
invidious to name the best, but these were Annie Wood, Alfred 
Colomb, Charles Lefebvre, Duke of Edinburgh, Capitaine Christy, 
and Paul Neyron, this last quite round and not coarse. Mr. Whit¬ 
well also showed very good treble blooms of this Rose. His advice 
is as follows with regard to this variety, “ Cut young and only from 
cut-backs.” Mr. J. Davis, Salisbury, was second in this class, and 
Mr. Parnell, Rugby, third. 
In the class for twenty-four singles Mr. Whitwell was again first, 
Annie Wood Annie Laxron, Alfred Colomb, and Marquise de Castel- 
lane being his best blooms. He was followed as before by Mr. Davis 
and Mr. Parnell. Again in eighteen trebles the Darlington hero was 
to the front, but he had a close fight this time, Mr. Pemberton of 
Havering-atte-Bower, Romford, contesting point by point, and bad it 
not been for a very bad treble indeed of Star of Waltham he would 
have been equal with Mr. Whitwell. 
The local classes were very well represented, the prizes being gene¬ 
rally divided between Mr. Griffiths and Mr. Rickards, though Mr. 
Griffiths had the largest share. 
It seems a pity that such a central situation as Birmingham should 
not be the 'chosen spot for the National Rose Society’s next pro¬ 
vincial show ; but a much wider extent of energy, liberality, and love 
for the Rose must exist there before any really successful show' can 
be held. Birmingham used to have an excellent show, and, as 
