May 27, 1871.] 
THE PHARMACEUTICAL JOURNAL AND TRANSACTIONS. 
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■concert with the Medical Officer of the Privy Council. 
"We tell you that, and you say it does not hind 3 * 011 , hut 
that I cannot agree to. You lost a great deal by not 
passing this last year. At that time, as Mr. Sehacht 
has said, regulations might have "become a dead letter; 
in fact, he has told 3*011 how excellent tho 3 r would he for 
practically carrying nothing out, and ho astonishes me 
by not having voted for Mr. Giles’s amendment. It ap¬ 
pears that he is reall 3 r waiting for inspection, and giving 
the notion of its necessity to the Government for the 
time being. And realty the discussion in the Journal 
keeps the idea in the minds of the Government and of 
the medical officer, who no doubt reads our Journal 
regularly. You may depend upon it if I 10 thinks the 
public will not he sufficiently protected without inspec¬ 
tion he will ask for it. As Mr. Randall has very fairly 
expressed it, there ma 3 * he differences of opinion whether 
these are the best possible regulations, hut we arc now 
simply enunciating the principle that at some time or 
other we will impose regulations of some kind. If we 
do not, I am sure the Council will he in a great diffi¬ 
culty, and I fear 3*011 will not get men on the Council 
who will he willing to give up the necessar 3 * time to 
tight the Government on a question of this sort when it 
ma 3 * arise. 
Mr. Wade : I desire to move an amendment in order 
to test this question, and it is to this effect,—“ That this 
meeting having already expressed its opinion on the 
question of poison regulations, desires to leave it in the 
hands of the Council to deal with as they shall see fit.” 
I move this because I apprehend that the Council, both 
the outgoing and incoming Council, will he perfectly com¬ 
petent to know what to do as to carrying out the pro¬ 
visions of the Act. It will he for the incoming Council, 
taking the wishes of the meeting as expressed to-day, to 
carry out these recommendations as the 3 * may see fit. I 
think, therefore, that such a resolution as Mr. Linford’s 
is altogether superfluous and unnccessaiy. 
Mr. Yizeu : I beg to second the amendment of Mr. 
Wade. Mr. Carteighe sa 3 *s he does not blow hot and 
cold. This powerfully illustrates the evil of the con¬ 
tinued absence of reporters from our Council meetings. 
If those proceedings were reported, we should realty 
know what was done ly the Council, which now we 
know* nothing about further than on which side each gen¬ 
tleman votes. I do sincerety hope that the new* Council 
wall take this matter into their early consideration. One 
word about the amendment. Mr. Carteighe says w*e are 
not able to balk Mr. Simon ; my opinion happens to be 
just the reverse : I think if that gentleman were to bring 
forw*ard an Act of Parliament for compelling us to accede 
to compulsoiy regulations, he w*ould not be able to cany 
it without including also medical men, surgeons, dis¬ 
pensers at hospitals and eveiybod 3 * else connected with 
the dispensing of medicines. I have far too high an 
opinion of the character of our Legislature to believe 
that the British House of Parliament w*ould pass an 3 * 
Act to bind a fractional part of a large and intelligent 
bod}* of men, leaving the gx’eater majority unshackled 
with an}* restriction whatever. I think in that w*ay we 
may fairly meet Mr. Simon. If he wishes to make the 
regulations compulsory let him go to Parliament to do 
so, and then w*e shall have to fight the battle out. The 
motion is in my opinion merely an attempt by a side 
wind to catch a few votes on the principle of Mr. Giles’s 
amendment, w*hich has been already lost. 
Mr. Squire : I think the amendment is a very ju¬ 
dicious one. Let us leave the matter in the hands of 
the Council, and sec what course of action they take. 
Mr. Saxdford : I feel perfectly convinced that you 
will not satisfy the Privy Council in this w*ay; and 
w*hen I think how much more pow*cr Mr. Simon has 
now* than he had in 1868, I do implore you to vote for 
the resolution. 
Mr. Abraham : You may remit it to the Council, but 
they have no power to do anything. Nothing but this 
meeting can exercise the legal authorit}* of the Pharma¬ 
ceutical Society, unless you choose to adjourn it or call a 
special meeting. 
Mr. E. Burden* : I do hope the Council will have the 
wisdom to leave the question where it is and do no more. 
I hear the words Privy Council, Government, Parlia¬ 
ment, used by one and anothei*, and at the same time wo 
are told that these recommendations are not going before 
the Privy Council at all. I believe if they arc sub¬ 
mitted. to the Privy Council or the Government, the 
question will be directly asked, how do you propose to 
enforce them ? and they will require some system of in¬ 
spection or some other regulations w*hich may prove ob¬ 
noxious. Under these circumstances I should bo for 
leaving the matter where it is, and let it rest until the 
Government raises the question. Mr. Giles has remarked 
that no one had brought forward any objection to these 
regulations, but the fact is he gave us no opportunity for 
doing so, by shutting us up to the question of compul¬ 
sion or not. Otherwise I should have been prepared 
to propose the omission of No. 2 altogether. 
The amendment w*as then put by the Chairman and 
declared to be carried on a show* of hands. It w*as then 
put as a substantive motion and carried. 
Mr. Urvvick proposed a vote of thanks to the Presi¬ 
dent for his able conduct in the chair, which w*as carried 
unanimously, and the meeting w*as then adjourned until 
Friday the 19th instant at eleven o’clock. 
ADJOURNED MEETING, 
Friday, Mag 19th, 1871. 
MR. A. F. HASELDEN*, F.L.S., PRESIDENT, IN* THE CHAIR. 
The Scrutineers brought up their report as foliow*s:— 
Scrutineers’ Report. 
We, the undersigned Scrutineers, appointed at the 
Thirtieth Annual General Meeting of the Pharma¬ 
ceutical Society of Great Britain, do hereby certify that 
we have examined the voting-papers committed to us 
and report the following :— 
Yoting-papcrs received.1478 
Disallow*ed as foliow*s :— 
Informal (having more than 14 names 
left).13 
Received by the Secretary, per post, 
after the 15th inst.124 
Enclosed in envelopes not signed by 
Yoters.14 
Sent direct to the Secretary .... 3 
- 154 
1324 
Hills . . 
. 1218 
Shaw . . . 
769 
Haselden . 
. 1200 
Sandford . . 
722 
Mackay . 
"Williams . 
. 1188 
. 1123 
Owen . . . 
719 
Carr . . 
. 1087 
Dymond . . 
678 
Atherton . 
. 1042 
Abraham . . 
621 
Woolley . 
. 1041 
Cooper . . 
343 
Greenish . 
. 992 
Yarde . . . 
334 
Brown. . 
. 972 
Collins . . 
273 
Betty . . 
. 869 
Wade . . . 
269 
Smith . . 
. 850 
Stott . . . 
238 
Frazer. . 
. 828 
Benjamin 
Humpage, Chairman. 
Frederick Andrews, 
John* II. Baldock, 
Edward Constance, 
Wji. Henry Froom, 
Wm. King Hop kin, 
John Horncastle, 
Joseph Kettle, 
May 18 th, 1871. 
John Moss, 
Robert Palmer, 
Matthew Pound, 
John* Robbins, 
Edwin B. Vizer, 
Robt. Fisher Young. 
