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THE PHARMACEUTICAL JOURNAL AND TRANSACTIONS. 
[June 8,1872, 
as to the use of the plural “reporters.” Perhaps Mr. 
Betty would alter his motion so as to meet Mr. Sutton’s 
view. 
Mr. Betty said he could not do that. The question 
really was whether the publication of the proceedings 
should be under the control of the Council, which he 
contended was a vicious system, or whether it should be 
left in the hands of the press, whose impartiality no one 
would dare to impugn. 
The President thought one reporter was as good as 
half-a-dozen. 
Mr. Betty said it was no use appointing a Committee 
and tying their hands. 
The President said he would put the amendment, 
Mr. Sutton having altered the wording so as to avoid, 
the necessity of a needlessly diffuse report being pub¬ 
lished. 
Mr. Sandford said the right of control must be 
reserved to the Council. They must be masters of their 
own proceedings. 
Mr. Broavn : Are the proceedings of this Council 
public or private F 
Mr. Betty said he thought they were public, or they 
could not be published. 
Mr. Sandford said, in his opinion, they were private. 
It was quite competent for any one to publish private 
proceedings if they liked. 
Mr. Schacht did not apprehend that the proceedings 
of any representative body could be private. 
Mr. Brown said that this was a question which every 
member ‘ought to settle for himself. He had always re¬ 
garded them as public. He considered the mere fact of 
allowing any report to be published, militated against 
the contention that they were private proceedings. He 
thought every member ought to be prepared to stand or 
fall by his utterances. If .there were any matter advis¬ 
able not to be published, they could resolve themselves 
into committee. 
The amendment was then put and lost, and the original 
motion, as altered by Mr. Brown, was put as a substan¬ 
tive motion and carried. 
It was then moved by Mr. Betty ; seconded by 
Mr. Baynes, and Resolved — 
“ That a Committee be appointed to inquire into and 
report to the Council the best means of carrying 
into practice the vote of the Council for the admis¬ 
sion of a reporter or reporters, and that the follow¬ 
ing be the Committee:—.Messrs. Betty, Bottle, 
Hampson, Mackay, Sandford, Savage, Sutton, 
Ur wick and 'Williams.” 
Mr. Bottle said he was present on one occasion when 
the Publication Committee were at work, and he was 
bound to say that he could fully bear out all that had 
been said as to the work being done most honestly and 
laboriously ; and he was certain/the Committee desired to 
publish not only their own views, but the views of those 
opposed to them, and he moved, 
“ That the President, Vice-President, and Mr. Sand¬ 
ford be appointed a Committee, pro tem ., to super¬ 
intend the publication of the proceedings of the 
present Council.” 
This was seconded by Mr. Savage, and carried unani¬ 
mously. 
Mr. Brown said he would now move in accordance 
with the promise he had made at the General Meeting, 
“ That the solicitor of the Society be requested to 
draft and submit to the next meeting such an al¬ 
teration in the bye-laws as will provide that due 
notice should be given of any proposal for the An¬ 
nual Meeting by which the legal position of Mem¬ 
bers of the Pharmaceutical Society, or of the genera., 
body of chemists and druggists, would be altered.” 
He thought this would be the better way of dealing 
with the question, because if he suggested the terms- 
of the new bye-law, it would have to be referred to 
the solicitor afterwards, and the course he proposed, 
would save time. 
Mr. Schacht seconded the motion. 
Mr. Williams said the first question was, did they 
desire to make any alteration in the bye-laws, which was 
a very serious matter ? Such a bye-law as was proposed 
would really give the chairman of an Annual Meeting- 
power to stop the business, and he thought it involved 
a dangerous principle. 
Mr. Sandford thought the resolution, in principle, 
a good one, and Mr. Flux had stated that there would 
be no difficulty in framing a bye-law to the effect that 
no motion which would involve legal consequences under 
Section I. of the Act, should be brought forward with¬ 
out due notice. 
Mr. Brown said it was only under Section I. that any 
legal consequences could arise. He considered that it 
would be an insult to the Council, who were chosen to 
conduct the affairs of the Society, for any member, to- 
bring forward an important motion at a general meeting- 
without first laying it before the Council. 
Mr. Hampson thought they were bound to make the 
alteration in the bye-laws if possible. It was one which 
would cut both ways, and he could not see any possible 
objection to it. 
Mr. Urwick said he should support the motion, for 
' le had been quite astonished at the last meeting to find. 
;hey were in such a state as to require it, which he did 
not think was the case with any other similarly consti¬ 
tuted body. He was in favour of the right to a poll in 
case of dispute. 
The President said no doubt the solicitor would in¬ 
form them that he could frame a bye-law, but that it 
was not usual for a Society to tie its own hands more- 
than necessary. 
Mr. Bottle thought such a bye-law as was proposed 
was contrary to the spirit of the Act of Parliament. 
Mr. Betty said the bye-law would not override the- 
Act of Parliament, it would simply prescribe the mode 
in which the action contemplated in the Act should be 
carried out. 
The resolution was then put and carried. 
The Secretary - read a letter from Mr. Sowerby, Se¬ 
cretary to the Royal Botanical Society, stating that the 
same facilities would be given to students attending 
Professor Bentley’s class as heretofore under the same- 
regulations. 
roljiiural tottsatficnw. 
LIVERPOOL CHEMISTS’ ASSOCIATION. 
The thirteenth General Meeting was held May 9 th ; 
the President, Mr. E. Davies, F.C.S., in the chair. 
The President showed one of Fletcher’s gas furnaces, 
and made some trials with it to show its efficiency. 
Mr. A. E. Tanner described the process of making 
perchloride of iron with chlorate of potassa, and said 
he found that it gave very satisfactory results. 
No paper was read. 
The fourteenth General Meeting was held May 23rd; 
the President, Mr. E. Davies, F.C.S., in the chair. 
The Hon. Secretary referred to the paper which had 
been read before a meeting of the Pharmaceutical. 
Society in London by Dr. Redwood, on the “ Substitu¬ 
tion of Proportional Numbers for specified Weights and 
Measures in the description of Processes in the Pharma¬ 
copoeia,” and which was published in the Pharmaceu¬ 
tical Journal of Dec. 9th, last year, and said he felt, 
sorry that the subject had not been brought before this. 
