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Club for the use of their room during the year ; also to the officers and 
other members of the Committee for their services in 1890. It was also 
resolved, on the motion of the Rev. J. Pemberton, seconded by Mr. 
B. R. Cant. “ That the first part of bye-law 7 be altered so as to read, 
‘ The General Committee meet twice annually—in January to elect the 
Executive Committee, and consider the schedules for the year ; and 
in November to make arrangements for the general meeting of the 
Society.’ ” 
A more important matter was next reached in the agenda when Mr. 
E. B. Lindsell rose to propose “ That the following Roses be added to 
regulation G : —Alfred Colomb, Marshal P. Wilder, Wilhelm Koelle, Due 
de Rohan, Mrs. Jowitt, Grand Mogul, Jean Soupert, Lady M. Fitz- 
william, Lady Alice, Madame A. LavalMe, Marie Baumann, together 
with the following note :—N.B.—In bracketing Roses together foliage 
and habit of growth are not taken into consideration.” The Rev. H. B. 
Biron seconded the motion, but in a rather doubtful tone, and some 
discussion followed. Several members raised objections to Alfred 
Colomb being identified with Marshal P. Wilder or Wilhelm Koelle. 
Others considered that though a difference was sometimes seen, the dis¬ 
tinction was too slight or not sufficiently constant to permit their being 
staged together, and this seemed to be the general feeliDg ; at least 
when the motion was put from the chair it was carried by a large 
majority. 
Another matter of considerable importance, and which occasioned 
more discussion than any other part of the business, was the following, 
proposed by Mr. G, Paul : —“ That having regard to the inutility ot the 
addition made last last year to Regulation 8 against dressing Roses, the 
words, 1 Dressing Roses so as to alter their character is prohibited,’ be 
omitted, and the Regulation stand as prior to its alteration.” Mr. Paul 
remarked that it would seem somewhat strange for him to be the 
first to propose the alteration of a rule he had been instrumental in 
forming last year, but he was convinced from personal experience 
and general report that it had been inoperative. Both judges and 
exhibitors had practically ignored the rule, and it placed con¬ 
scientious exhibitors at a greater disadvantage than before, as they 
were deterred from manipulating their flowers in any way, while 
others of a less sensitive disposition paid no regard to the matter. 
He entirely disapproved of dressing Roses in any form, but he 
felt it was useless to make a law that only led to law breaking. The 
Rev. Foster-Melliar expressed surprise at Mr. Paul’s motion, because he 
thought the rule had been beneficial, and that excessive dressing so 
to alter the character of the blooms had been to a large extent stopped. 
He thought the rule should remain as it was, an opinion in which Mr. 
Jefferies and others concurred. The Rev. D'Ombrain considered it de¬ 
sirable to try the rule for a long time before discarding it. Mr. Paul 
then said that there was an instruction to the Judges to the effect that 
an over-dressed bloom should be regarded as a bad bloom, and he 
asked if any judges present could say that they had acted upon this 
instruction. Several in reply to this stated that they had done so, and 
further expressed the opinion that there had been less excessive 
“ dressing of bloom ” during the past year than before. Mr. Paul said 
he was glad to hear this, and he hoped the discussion would be the 
means of leading to a more stringent enforcement of the regulation, 
He, however, adhered to his motion, which, being seconded and put to 
meeting, was negatived by a large majority. 
It was then declared that as the result of the ballot the names in the 
appended list had been duly returned, and the meeting closed with a 
hearty vote of thanks to the Chairman. 
Committee and Officers, 1891.—President : The Yery Rev. The 
Dean of Rochester, D.D. Vice-Presidents : His Grace the Duke of 
Portland, Sir Joseph R. Bailey, Bart., M.P., Michael Biddulph, M.P., 
James RankiD, M P., the Mayor of Plereford, R. N. G. Baker, Rev. J. M. 
duller, T. B. Haywood, Dr. Robert Hogg. Hon. Treasurer: Thomas 
Burt Haywood. Hon. Secretaries : Rev. II. Honywood D’Ombrain, 
Edward Mawley. General Committee: H, Appleby, J. Bateman, Rev. 
H. A. Berners, R. Bloxham, G. Bunyarl, Rev. F. R. Burnside, J. Burrell, 
B. R. Cant, F. Cant, Rev. A. Cheales, Captain Christy, W. F. Cooling, 
G. Dickson, Rev. A. Foster-Melliar, W. H. Fowler/Rev. F. Id. Gall, 
T. W. Girdlestone, C. J. Grahame, W. J. Grant, R„ Harkness, C. F. 
Hore, W. J. Jefferies, R. L. Knight, E B. Lindsell, J. P.oyes, Rev. F. 
Page-Roberts, G. Paul, J. D. Paw e. Rev. J. II. Pemberton, A. Prince, 
D. Prior, W. Rumsey, A. Slaughter, A. Turner, H. Wallis. R. E. West, 
E. Wilkins, Rev. W. Wilks, W. H. Williams, F. T. Wollaston. Hon. 
Auditors : J. D. Pawle and F. T. Wollaston. Dr. M. T. Masters was 
also elected a Vice-President. 
Local Rose Exhibitions. 
1 really did not intend continuing further correspondence on this 
subject, but I feel bound to answer Mr. Raillem by referring once 
more to the statement I made at page 380, line twenty-one, also the 
statement made by “ J. B ,” at page 420, line forty-four, and the 
schedule of the Gloucester Show, and others I could mention, but space 
does not permit. If these are not monopolies, I do not know what are. 
Mr. Raillem quotes the N.R.S. schedule with its divisions and restrictions, 
and suggests it cannot be improved. Take for instance division F, 
which I suppose is allotted for the smaller growers. Will he tell me 
whether there are any restrictions that would prevent Mr. Lindsell or 
Mr. Pemberton from showing in any of the classes in that division if 
they thought well ! If so, I confess my search has been in vain. 
With regard to the passage I quoted from the “ Rosarians’ Year Book.” 
in my opinion it was quite in accordance with the Rev. II. T. Frere’s 
views. There is no doubt in my mind that his object was for encouraging 
tne smaller growers. He says in that paragraph, at page 16, “ We want 
more exhibitors ; we old ones must beat up for recruits, and give advice- 
and counsel.” He also says, “ We ring changes of the prize-list on too 
small a peal year after year, A, B, C, D, &c., never E or F ” (this- 
sentence refers to provincial shows), and which Mr. Raillem omits to 
mention. The interpretation I put upon that is that there ought to be 
additional classes, and for whom ? Undoubtedly the sma'l growers, as 
already there are sufficient for the larger ones. Again, Mr. Raillem 
quotes the passage, “ Where great difficulty was experienced in per¬ 
suading a neighbour to show at an exhibition, and upon his taking a 
first prize started him off,” &c. Mr. Raillem attributes that to pluck. I 
do not see much pluck in a man who wants politely driving to do any¬ 
thing. No, it was the encouragement he received which enabled him to 
win the prize. Pluck is all very well, but something else is required- 
with it—a head with something in it, also a pocket with something 
in it. • 
In conclusion, permit me, although not personally known to him in 
life, to pay my humble tribute of sorrow for the loss we must feel by 
the death of the Rev. H. T. Frere.—A n Exhibitor. 
ROYAL HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 
December 9th. 
The last meeting of the Committees for the present year was held in 
the Drill Hill, James Street, on Tuesday, when there was a good at¬ 
tendance of members at each of the three tables. Exhibits are never 
very numerous at this time of year, especially when the weather is un¬ 
favourable, but on the occasion under notice they were perhaps rather 
above the average of corresponding dates. Orchids in particular were 
well represented, some very valuable novelties being shown, and these 
furnished both interest and colour. The duties of the Floral Committee 
were much lighter than usual, two collections of Primulas and Zonal 
Pelargoniums composing the greater portion of the exhibits in this 
department. Fruit and vegetables iucluded excellent market Grapes, 
fine Onions, and a quantity of preserved fruits. 
Fruit Committee. —Present: R. D. Blackmore, Esq., in the chair; 
and Messrs. John Lee, P. Crowley, Harrison Weir, C. Ross, J. Willard, 
J. Denning, W. Warren, J, T. Saltmarsh, A. H. Pearson, JI. Balderson, 
G. Wythes, F. Q. Lane, T. F. Rivers, J. Cheal, and J. Wright. 
Two bunches of a black Grape named Scarborough Seedling were 
sent by the Liverpool Horticultural Compan 3 r . The variety is said to 
be a cross between the Black Hamburgh and Gros Colman, but no¬ 
award was made on the ground that it was considered to be too much 
like the last-named variety to be regarded as distinct, and on being 
compared with samples of Gros Colman in the room, as grown at 
Worthing for market, no difference was perceptible either in appearance 
or quality. Bunches of Lady Ilutt Grape were sent by Mr. Miles, gar¬ 
dener to Lady Hutt, Appley Towers, the result of a cross between Gro3 
Colman (seed parent) and Black Alicante? Berries round, white, about 
the size of the Black Hamburgh, and extremely juicy and rich in¬ 
quality. They were quite firm and the stalk green, indicating its- 
keeping properties, and it will not improbably prove to be a first-rate 
white Christmas Grape. A first-class certificate was unanimously- 
awarded. 
Mr. Ross, Wtlford Park Gardens, sent two Pine Apples, Smooth 
Cayenne, weighing respectively 7 lbs. 4 ozs. and G lbs. 12 ozs., and a 
cultural commendation was promptly recorded. Mr. Ross also sent 
three seedling Apples, but as they were not equal to existing varieties 
no award was made. Varieties of Apples are already much too 
numerous, and a seedling has to afford evidence of distinct superiority 
to merit official recognition. However, a seedling of much promise was 
sent by Mr. J. T. Saltmarsh, and named Chelmsford Wonder. It was 
raised by a cottager in Essex, is said to keep till March, the tree being 
a good bearer. The fruits were almost as large and symmetrical as fine- 
specimens of Peasgood’s Nonesuch, firm, heavy, and agreeably sub¬ 
acid. The Committee were so favourably impressed with this Apple 
that a desire was expressed to see it again in February or March, and to 
test it then in a cooked state. Mr. T. Dixon, Grove Road, Leighton 
Buzzard, sent a dish of Cox’s Orange Pippin from a tree trained against 
a wall and grown in sandy soil. They were richly coloured, but want¬ 
ing in flavour (vote of thanks). Mr. Sidney Ford sent dishes of King 
of the Pippins Apple, and a vote of thanks was accorded. 
Mr. James O’Brien, IJarrow-on-the-Hill, sent fruits of Jamaica 
Orangrs, heavy, with a thin pale rind, very juicy and good (vote of 
thanks). Mr. G. Wythes sent a gigantic specimen of the Spanish 
Cardoon, and a cultural commendation was awarded. He also sent plants, 
of Victoria Spinach and Beet, and the varieties were recommended to be 
grown at Chiswick. Onions of enormous size were exhibited by Mr. 
Deverill, and a cultural commendation unanimously awarded. A 
bronze medal was recommended for twelve baskets of Grapes for 
market, sent by Mr. W. Hazell, Worthing, and vote of thanks awarded 
to Mr. Beach for a fine collection of bottled fruit and jams, a silver 
medal having been adjudged for Mr. Beach’s produce on a recent 
occasion. 
Floral Committee. —Present : W. Marshall, Esq., in the chair ; 
and Messrs. E. Mawley, H. Turner, G. Paul, T. Baines, W. H. Williams, 
B. Wynne, H. Herbst, R. Dean, H. B. May, F. Ross, W. C. Leach,. 
C. Jefferies, H. Canned, C. Noble, and the Rev. H. H. D’Ombrain. 
The most conspicuous of the exhibits before this Committee were 
