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spending “ six weeks in corresponding with Latin and French scholars, 
Their reticence on this point, coupled with the fact that several 
distinctly English slips were to be found in the work, made me jump to 
the conclusion that they had not consulted any authorities but them¬ 
selves, and I am glad to find myself mistaken. Messrs. Thibaut et 
Xeteleer being, as Mr. Owen points out, part English and part French, 
this latter gentleman makes confusion worse confounded by spelling the 
last name “ Keteeler ” in addition to “ Keteleer ” of the N.C.S. and 
Keteller ” of Mr. Davis’s own catalogue last year. 
I could not be expected to know of the existence of Mdlle. Paule 
Dufour, as she is not mentioned in any catalogue I have yet seen, but am 
glad to find that even some Frenchmen believed Belle Pauline to be 
■the correct name for that very capricious variety. 
I was quite aware of “ Bertier ” being a man’s name ju^t as George 
us, yet the N.C.S. Committee have not taken “ Mrs.” away from 
“ George Rundle.” Why then “Madame” from “ Bertie Randatler ?” 
Mr. Davis’s excuse that they did so for fear of confusion with “ Madame 
Berthier ” will not hold water, for on looking through the catalogue I 
find two Ceres, two Carmen, two Jupiter, two Graziella, two Aurore 
Boreale, two Delicata, two Duchess of Albany, and two Flocon de 
Niege, besides Coquette de Castille, James and Jane Salter, Mons. Roux 
and Mons. Rioux, Gloire de Toulouse and Gloire Toulousaine, Mr. 
J. Laing, Mons. John Laing, and Mons. J. H. Laing. After this Mr. 
Davis can hardly complain of my inconsistency. But if the Committee 
were so anxious to avoid confusion why did they not adopt the English 
synonym Curiosity ? It is an excellent name, and I for one think that 
English names might with advantage be given more frequently than they 
are, as the majority of French names present insuperable difficulties of 
•pronunciation to English gardoners and mislead Englishmen generally. 
•ru r " ^ oe3 no * ; U8 who bis Latin correspondents were, and 
without some proof of the correctness of their views I must decline to 
accept their substitution of the termination “a” for “ um.” Why a 
Chrysanthemum is to be feminine instead of neuter I fail to comprehend, 
especially as the generic name ends in “ um.” Chrysanthemum album 
plenum surely sounds better than Chrysanthemum alba plena. We might 
just as well have Oncidium macrantha or Sobralia macranthum, and 
■Cattleya guttatum or Saccolabium guttata. Would Mr. Davis tolerate 
for one moment such a jumble as that? 
. Taking the Buds. —I have little doubt of “C. L., Bristol ,” being 
right in his criticism on Mr. Molyneux’s dates for the above. I followed 
the directions most carefully, and did not “ take ” a single bud before 
the 18th August. I think the 20th was my first, and the result has been 
that all have been too early, many of the best kinds being over now, 
therefore never again do I take a bud sooner than Sept. 1st. I am the 
more convinced of Mr. Molyneux’s mistake, because in his concluding 
article he published some letters from celebrated growers agreeing with 
his view that the latter part of August is the right time to take buds, but 
•on looking through that list I perceived all his correspondents to be north 
countrymen—-conclusive evidence, I think, that southern growers do not 
endorse his views on this subject. 
I am a trifle hazy as to the geographical position of Swanmore Park, 
but believe it to be near Southampton, one of the wettest places on the 
south coask its climate being not unlike that detestable place Liverpool, 
where the Chrysanthemum flourishes in a way unknown in warmer and 
■drier situations. No ; Mr. Molyneux’s dates may do very well in cool 
damp positions, but will not answer for the majority of places in the 
sunny south; such, for instance, as the northern slopes of the Thames 
valley.—B. D. K. 
Belle Paule. —Had Mr. Murphy explained to the readers of the 
Journal in his first notes on Chrysanthemums that he had stopped the 
shoots on Belle Paule, it would have been clear t > myself and others 
that the plants are much dwarfed by the operation of stopping. Referring 
to his notes, page 362, he says, “ This year I have grown it differently— 
viz., in a highly manured border against a south wall. ... In habit and 
foliage thus treated it resembles Eve and Duchess of Albany, at present 
they are only 4 feet high each.” I agree with “ Chrysanthemum, Sussex,” 
*' -*■ d° nt f ®ee any resemblance between Belle Paule and Eve, as Mr. 
Murphy states there is.” At page 412 Mr. Murphy plainly states that his 
plants were stopped, and are 4 to 5 feet high, hence the conclusion that 
Belle Paule, a tall long jointed, and Eve is a close short-jointed variety. 
There is little or no resemblance between the two varieties. Mr. Murphy 
says on page 413, that “ I feel inclined to doubt that Mr. Owen has not 
the true variety.” If my variety of Belle Paule is not the true one, 
the Committee of the National Chrysanthemum Society made a grave 
error when they awarded me a first-class certificate f r it as the true one. 
I recommend to Mr. Murphy, Flora, as an early yellow Pompon, because I 
think without doubt it is the earliest and best yellow Pompon grown. 
Planted out it is only 2 feet high, and of first-class habit. The flowers are 
full and of a bright canary yellow. I have been cutting from this variety 
since the mid lie of July, and am still cutting (November 6th) abundance 
of blooms from the same plants. 
^ am re l a be that during my twenty-six years of cultivation the 
Chrysanthemum never performed this freak of producing hen-and- 
chicken flowers. I admit not quite understanding “T. P.” until I referred 
to his note a gecond time.— Robert Owen, Maidenhead. 
Varieties Worth Trying. —The following varieties, which are not 
generally known, were flowering in Mr. Davis’s collection at Camberwell a 
lew days ago, appear to be both distinct and meritorious. 
La Marguerite .—A medium-sized true Anemone-flowered variety, 
not a hybrid nondescript, colour magenta violet, bold smooth cushion and 
good guard florets. The bloom will doubtlessly come larger, and then be 
an acquisition to a stand of choice varieties. 
Roi de Japonaise .—The blooms of this variety were not fully de¬ 
veloped, and on strong well grown plantsjthey will probably attain a good 
size. The florets are of medium width and drooping, not twisted, and the 
colour very bright—reddish crimson tipped with gold. In character the 
bloom somewhat resembles Etoile du Midi, but the varieties are quite 
distinct. 
Edouard Audiguier .—This is a Japanese variety of great promise. 
The bloom is full and deep, with long fluted florets; colour, rich amaranth 
with a silvery reflex, which is visible in the short florets in the centre of 
the bloom, the contrasting effect being very striking. The plant is a 
strong grower with dark stems and fine foliage—a variety to be “ looked 
after.” 
Two older varieties worthy of mention are Temple of Solomon, a fine 
yellow true reflexed variety that, used to be grown thirty years ago, but 
has seldom been seen of late ; and Queen of Anemones, a beautifully 
formed Pompon with a bright chestnut cushion and maroon guard florets, 
distinct and good.—A n Old Grower. 
HARDY BRITISH FRUITS. 
On Friday evening last a very interesting gathering was held at the 
Queen Victoria Vegetarian Restaurant in the Strand, under the 
presidency of Mr. Edmund J. Baillie, F.L.S., of Chester. After dinner 
the subjects of fruit growing, reformed diet, and thrift in food weie dis¬ 
cussed. The Chairman, Mr. Baillie, gave an address upon fruit-growing, 
and treated up m the many varied aspects of the question. He urged 
upon all the necessity of making better arrangements for the sale of home¬ 
grown fruits, and pointed out the desirability for organisation on the part 
of the producers to put their industry upon a footing of fairness. He 
then spoke upon the educational aspect of the subject, and pointed out 
how small a proportion of the food of the people was derived from the 
gardens and the orchards in comparison to what it ought to be if habits of 
health and thrift were taught and encouraged. Amongst other speakers 
were Mr. G. C. F. Bartley, M.P., Professor J. E. B. Mayor, M.A. (Cam¬ 
bridge), Dr. Swartwont, President of Columbia University, New York, 
Dr. Nicholls, Dr. Allanson, Mr. Skinner, and Mr. W. S. Manning. At the 
conclusion of the meeting the Chairman invited the company to inspect 
tha specimens of fruit arranged upon tables in the room. Mr. Manning 
had a large and representative collection of Pears and Apples grown in his 
orchards within seven miles of London ; and Messrs. F. & A. Dickson and 
Sons of the Upton Nurseries, Chester, exhibited a collection of fruits 
grown upon the trees in their fruit quarters unprotected in their nurseries 
occupying, as Mr. Baillie explained, one of the bleakest and most exposed 
situations in the county of Chester. The collection therefore included 
specimens both from northern and southern di-tricts, and prominent 
amongst the Cheshire fruits we observed—Apples.—Scarlet Pearmain, 
King of Pippins, Cox’s Orange Pippin, Ribston, Court Pendu Plat, Sturmer 
Pippin, &c. Pears.—Marie Louise, Louise Bonne of Jersey, Marie Louise 
d’Uccle, Pitmaston Duchess, General Todtleben, &c. 
The meeting was of a most interesting and thoroughly enthusiastic 
character, and great credit is due to Mr. Manning for his excellent 
organisation and for his untiring efforts in popularising the movement 
with which he is connected, and towards the development of which 
his energies are so constantly directed. The fruits were of splendid 
quality and were arranged in the order of succession as to ripening, so 
that the Company might make notes as to the kinds of fruits they should 
order for certain seasons as they might be required for use. Such meet¬ 
ings cannot fail to do good work and are in every way commendable. 
- Messrs. Wm. Paul Sc Son, Waltham Cross, writing in reply to 
“ W. R.” respecting Rose Madame Barthelemy Levet, remark :— 
‘‘ If your correspondent looks once again at our Rose catalogue he will 
find we have no group of Roses there under the heading of Tea or Hybrid 
Tea, but two groups under the heading of Tea-scented Roses and their 
Hybrids.” 
- Relative to La Favorite Melon, with which “ A Fore¬ 
man ” has been disappointed, “ T. H.” informs us that he has grown 
this variety, and it set and swelled freely aid proved of good quality; 
he considers it a very good Melon, and advises “ A Foreman ” to give it 
another trial. 
- In Messrs. Sutton Sc Sons’ trial grounds at Reading, amingst 
many other attractions this season, a plant of Tropjeolum SPECIOSUM 
on a north wall has flowered. The method of treatment is as fol’ows. 
