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JOURNAL OF HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER. 
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■wiH be in request ; the blooms this year (the first) are not quite large 
pv, 0U k ’ bUt s . troll " ei ' plants another season will probably remedy that. 
floe bus was in good form, with very clear yellow drooping florets, but 
they appear a little destitute of substance, and the blooms will probablv 
not last long in beauty. The Am rican Anemone variety Thorpe, iun., 
c lear yellow, was admirably represented. Ordinarily its guard 
floret?are too irregular, but one bloom from which some of them had 
fleen removed was compact and smooth enough for any stand ; it was also 
cmfntin-T & cusllion > ancl worth at least five points out of six in 
It is found that many varieties are more useful at Chilwell when 
•topped two or three times, then allowed to bear all the flowers they 
' VltU ?! Ut disbudding. In this way they are suitable for decorative 
ettect, and affording a wealth of sprays for cutting. Alex. Dufour, 
fliur flu Nina Source d’Or, and some others, including the bright 
t^ i lv01 de p iococes, connot produce large blooms if disbudded, 
‘ , ,® c , ar ? d the following will be grown as indicated next year. 
. Nel " e ’ Chevalier Domage, Tendresse. Embleme, 
b lam beau, L Afncaine, Bouquet Fait, Ville d’Hejeres, William Clark, 
ler f ec t a , La Frissure, James Salter, Lady Selborne, Soliel 
Levant and possibly some others. Apart from the. display, which is 
now attracting numbers of visitors, another very large house is filled 
with hate varieties, and it is quite certain that there will be no scarcity 
•ot Chrysanthemums at Chilwell from the present time till the middle 
of January, and probably later. 
. In yistting- Chilwell it is impossible to overlook the Zonal Pelar°-o- 
mums that are now a “ blaze of beauty.” For habit, freedom, quality, 
a d colour, the varieties raised here are pre-eminent, and so far from 
ne public tiring of them, the demand this year has been greater 
ttian ever. A or is this surprising when we see such as Charles Mason, 
-bissy, Lord Tredegar, Mrs. David Saunders, International, and Lady 
rancis Russell; while of the old sorts for winter flowering Mrs. H. T. 
Barker and Charles Smith commanded attention. In others of the 
large house we find one devoted to Ferns and Vines, another to 
Stephanotis and Eucharis, a third to Vines in pots, very fine : a fourth 
to Camellias, a fifth to Marechal Niel and other Boses, a sixth to 
Camellias, and so to the number of over twenty ; and in one vinery is 
a fruit exhibition, the Messrs. Pearson having offered prizes to collec- 
i w Vn nort; k °_f file Trent, but they w ere not awarded when we 
lett the N ursery. Time did not permit an inspection of the 20 acres of 
.young fruit trees, nor the 100 acres of orchards, but a glance was had 
at what cannot be found elsewhere—2000 fine plants of the beautiful 
ucca hlamentosa variegata, established in the open nursery, and have 
never been protected even when the thermometer has fallen below zero, 
r or rock work and choice positions such plants as these would add a 
feature distinct from everything else and attractive. 
and thereon calculating his chances of success in competition with the 
, Iv f :r P 00 l growers, is not such as is heard from men who have won a 
high position as cultivators, for such men have no objection to anyone 
seeing their plants two or three months before a show, and they do not 
attribute selfish motives to any fellow gardener who may give them a 
call. But if that was Mr. Molyneux’s object, why did he not report on 
the plants grown by Mr. Tunnington, who is one of the chief of the 
Liverpool growers? If he inspected those plants and kept silence 
about them he might lay himself open to suspicion ; but if he did not 
see them, what becomes of the “ impression ” that “ \V r . D.” has recorded ? 
If Mr. Molyneux called at Calderstoim, or whatever the name of the 
place may be, it is fair to assume he would have reported on the plants 
there the same as on those at other places at which he called. 
As to the “results ” of Mr. Molyneux’s teaching, have not they been 
seen by many experienced judges at many shows, and are not these judges 
as capable of estimating the character of his blooms as “ small growers 
and beginners ” ar , l If not, then the “ beginners” ought to be the judges 
according to “ W. D.’s ” theory. 
In reference to the old “North and South’’ controversy, and the 
relative capacity of growers, it is safe to say there are first-rate Chrysan¬ 
themum growers in both districts, and possibly not far wrong to surmise 
there are some of the other sort. As a southern grower Mr. Molyneux’s 
record is known. What is the record of “ W. D.” I If through want 
of opportunities it should not happen to be quite so good, perhaps he 
can furnish the records of others who have won a greater per-centage of 
first prizes in a given time than Mr. Molyneux has. A few “returns ” 
of that nature would be interesting. 
Possibly “ W. D.” knows that the best Liverpool growers have com¬ 
peted in the south, and lost ami won prizes there, still toey failed in the 
end to win the coveted cup at Kingston, excellent as were their exhibits. 
I he late Mr. Harding proved the victor, but I venture to assert that the 
judges at those shows would say, if they had to make an affidavit on the 
matter, that every collection which Mr. Molyneux subsequently staged 
there was far in advance of Mr. Harding’s. It seems natural for a man 
who rises above his fellows, no matter in what he may be engaged, to be 
the subject of a certain amount of envy. Rivalry is good and whole¬ 
some, but petty jealousy not worth encouraging.—W. D. No. 2. 
MR. MBA.SE AND THE HULL CHRYS AN THEM CTM TROPHY". 
SOME years ago, when the Carter’s cup for vegetables was offered for 
competition, I did not compete for it, as it looked too much like a decoy 
bird, but the firm was most honourable in the matter, and gave the 
beautiful trophy to its lawful and meritorious winner, and I hope the 
Hull Committee will do likewise. However that may be, I trust Mr. 
Mease will compete again this year, and if successful he will be the re¬ 
cognised champion.— J. H. Goodacre, Evasion, Derby. 
TWO GOOD NEW CHRYSANTHEMUMS. 
Many Chrysanthemums have been introduced last year, especially 
from Trance, that are either old varieties under new nam s, as pointed 
out by Mr. Davis some time ago, orjthat are destined to a transient fame. 
Df those that seem most promising, La Triomphante and L’Ebounifee, 
both raised by Reydellet, deserve to be specially noted. They are ex- 
•cellent contrasts. The former opens a lilac rose and gradually assumes 
a whitish pink ; the latter opens a crimson reddish orange, and finally 
becomes almost pure yellow ; the former gracefully reflexes, while the 
latter is equally as good incurved. [The National Chrysanthemum 
■Society, when they next issue an edition of their excellent catalogue, 
might divide the Japanese into reflexed, incurved, &c.] Both com¬ 
menced blooming, from crown buds with me, the last days of October, 
-and thus would evidently be good for all the earlier November shows; 
while with terminal buds, any day to the end of November. Both 
■blooms would be large enough for show purposes, and are likdy to be 
.more largely grown next year. Of other new ones the tallest growing is 
Le Cid, while the dwarfest is Veitch Fils, not reaching 18 inches in a 
10-inch pot. I cannot speak for the quality of the blooms of those or 
others yet, but would suggest that growers give you an opportunity of 
■publishing a list of dwarf-growing Chrysanthemums. They would be 
exceedingly useful for conservatory and other decorative purposes where 
the tall growing cannot be utilised. I should have noted in reference 
to La Triomphante that the foliage is similar to Lady Talfourd, Ariadne, 
and a few others. Distinguishing Chrysanthemums by their foliage is 
•often important. 
REFLEXED CHRYSANTHEMUMS. 
This class is very limited, so I am sure all lovers of those will wel- 
•come the three new additions noticed at Messrs. Veitch’s—viz., Alice 
Bird (Buttercup), bright yellow ; Aspasia, pale satiny rose—this descrip¬ 
tion resembles.Emperor of China, one of the most useful, freest bloom¬ 
ing, and hardiest Chrysanthemums in existence ; and Irene, pile soft 
Tose. As you have permitted me to make so many suggestions, the last 
would be that you give your readers a detailed description of those three 
when they are at their best.—\V. J. Murphy, Clonmel. 
NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN GROWERS. 
“ W. D.,” whether designedly or unconsciously I am unable to say, 
pays Mr. Molyneux a great compliment on p. 339 last week, for if lie 
can by inspecting plants in September forecast with any substantial 
accuracy the character of the blooms they will develops in November 
he must be endowed with no ordinary mental power of penetrating into 
the future. The suggestion of his viewing the “nakedness of the land,” 
The Hull Committee, through their Secretaries, inform the public 
that, having taken legal advice, there is no other course open but acting 
upon it. Surely an appeal by them to the parties personally interested 
in the competition will clear the way of all difficulties. 
A peculiar hardship in Mr. Mease’s case is that if he again enters the 
competition and is placed first, as very possibly he may be, his position 
will still be as anomalous a one as is the case at present. Being gar¬ 
dener to the executors of his late employers it is very improbable that 
they will carry on the gardens and retain Mr. Mease on the mere 
prospect of his winning the cup. 
Supposing that he competes for and wins the cup at the forthcoming 
Show, I suggest that a fund be raised by public subscription to test the 
validity of. the position of the Committee if they refuse Mr. Mease 
absolute possession of the cup. If other means fail to bring about a 
satisfactory solution of the difficulty I shall be glad to give my mite of 
10s. 6il. towards the above object. On every hand we hear expressions 
of sympathy with Mr. Mease, and some have alreadv promised practical 
help in this matter.— Yorkshireman. 
I have noted the correspondence with reference to the Hull Chal¬ 
lenge Cup for Chrysanthemums. It may possibly simplify the case if I 
at once announce that as I last year lodged a protest against the 
Judges’ decision, and as those Judges have been this year re-appointed, 
the Otterspool Gardens will not be represented at the coming show.—■ 
D. Lindsay (dm Sir T. Edmardcs-Muss, bart.'). 
[As was stated in the report of the Hull Show last year, Mr. Lindsay 
only entered a protest against the awards in those class : s in which he 
lost—not in the one in which he was awarded the first prize. His pro¬ 
test was founded on the assumption that the judging was not done by 
points. The J udges’ “ points ” were placed before the Committee, and 
their accuracy was tested by scrutineers, who confirmed the verdict in 
favour of Mr. Mease and against Mr. Lindsay. AVe are authorised to 
state that the Judges express d their readiness to be relieved from 
officiating this year, or to act with a third accredited Judge, who might 
be approved ; one was appointed to whom Mr. Lindsay made no objec¬ 
tion. He now retires.] 
I have read with astonishment in the Journal of 3rd inst. Mr. 
Udale’s strictures on what he assumes to be the reasons actuating the 
Committee of the Hull and East Riding Chrysanthemum Society in this 
matter. 
Mr. Udale has entirely failed to grasp the facts of the case, and 
attributes unworthy motives to the Committee, which could find no 
