G. Wallace: Well, that's not the only information. The other information we 
need would be the ambient biological and chemical condition. We have to consider a 
series of criteria. 
Question: Yes. That's the problem. W£ would like to have all of this 
information: physical, chemical, and biological. But we haven't decided precisely what it 
is that we want to change from a management point of view. We haven't decided what it 
is we want to avoid. 
G. Wallace: I think they're all equal. We have to get rid of the waste. And 
the greatest lack that I see in this whole program is the lack of attention paid to the 
balancing of the terrestrial versus the marine disposable wastes. 
Question: You're dealing with the unknowns on land as well. 
G. Wallace: Exactly. But we know we have severe groundwater problems. I 
get calls everyday at the university. "Should I buy this house, it's near hazardous landfills, 
it's number fourteen in the Superfund sites." "Gee, sir, I don't know." But the point is, we 
know contaminants are present, and it's happening more and more frequently. And there's 
going to be more and more pressure to avoid going to landfills, for example. 
Question: We know that. What do you want to know about the circulation in 
Boston Harbor and in Massachusetts Bay that is going to make a difference? 
G. Wallace: We need to know the transport and dilution of the toxicants that 
are going to be diffused. 
Question: That's a multiple answer. 
G. Wallace: Right. 
Question: I think you ought to know the frequency with which you're going to 
contaminate beaches, and then you want to know the flushing capacity. 
G. Wallace: Oh, we want to make sure we don't do those things. 
Question: Well, those are the end points. Without having a well-defined end 
point, a definition of what you want to avoid, all you're going to do is generate a lot of 
academic information about circulation in Massachusetts Bay that sometime later, 
hopefully, somebody can use. 
G. Wallace: No. I presumed when you asked the question, you knew the 
answer. So, of course, those are the concerns~to know exactly what the fate of the 
transport of the pollutants are, what environments are going to be affected, and what 
biological resources will be impacted. And we can't know this unless we have a pretty 
good idea where they're going to be transported, what form they're going to be in, and 
what communities are likely to be affected. 
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