Dr. D'Elia: Bill Eichbaum seems to be reacting 
differently there. 
Mr. Eichbaum: I'd put a slightly different spin on that 
ball maybe. And for those of you, I'm not a scientist, I'm a 
lawyer, so it's easy to put a different spin on a scientific 
ball and not to worry too much about it. 
But it does seem to me that there are two things in terms of 
the answer to the guestion to keep in mind. One is, and I 
haven't been here all day, but I caught most of Walt Boynton's 
talk and your point of the data base. I mean, the monitoring 
program is in place in part to try and develop that data base so 
that if we don't know those relationships or enough data to know 
those relationships now, we will at some point in the future. 
And secondly, at least to the extent that you can have a 
reasonable program for reduction of nutrients, we are doing 
that, both from point sources and non-point sources, and both in 
terms of I guess what I call near-field effects on dissolved 
oxygen and the main stem of the Bay. We will begin to pick up 
those relationships and trends, if they can be picked out from 
the background, over time. 
So I think I would, as I say, have a slightly different 
perspective, but not disagreeing. 
Dr. Malone: I couldn't agree with Bill more. I think 
initiation of monitoring programs has been one of the most 
important things that's happened in the last couple of years. 
Dr. D'Elia: Howard, could we hear from you on that? 
Dr. Seliger: Well, I really came here to learn something 
about the Chesapeake Bay that other people were willing to talk 
about. I have been depressed ever since I heard the Governor 
say that we knew what to do and we were going to do it. 
I have no idea on what precisely to do. I don't know what 
the relationship is between nutrients and anoxia or between the 
Connowingo Dam, the increase in anoxia and the subseguent loss 
of fish species. 
I think I would take the side of Larry Haas and say that 
perhaps the data we've been collecting is not really related to 
food chains. If we want to know about anoxia, we have to ask 
about the effect of anoxia in the various tributaries. The 
central channel of the Bay is a transport train and it's also a 
ship train. 
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