Dr. Morris: That is an issue that will come up 
periodically and you need to keep raising it because we need 
your input, and there should be a mechanism in order to get it. 
And it should be listened to and evaluated. 
I had a boss once who was somewhat like that and said that 
he wanted things to come out a certain way in terms of science. 
And I suggested to him the next day that maybe he should have a 
law passed that the sun wouldn't come up the next day and see if 
the political system could do that in terms of science. 
It's the same sort of thing. We need to have you in. And I 
think there's a two-way street in terms of the needs of the 
policy-makers for the certainty that you can or can't provide in 
your recognition of how you get into the process and market and 
sell in terms of what you know, how certain you are, and what we 
can do about it. 
Dr. D'Elia: How can we help? I think that's the next 
logical question. 
Dr. Morris: Well, in terms of the Chesapeake Bay Program, 
we have a scientific thing called an advisory committee, which 
is set up to do that. Also, there are other mechanisms in which 
you can get in through the university or through your state or 
just by giving a call. But there is an institutional mechanism 
to get the scientific world in, and I think you need to make 
sure that, one, that piece of the institution is there. And 
secondly, when you're invited, that you participate. 
Dr. Thomas: If I might just comment on that ... one of 
the conferences of the Estuary-of-the-Month series is exactly 
this sort of thing. We've made a real attempt to involve the 
Sea Grant Program from the States of Maryland and Virginia. So 
I hope that we'll at least respond. The heart is in the right 
place. 
Dr. D'Elia: The Rothschild-Stagg paper at the end 
suggested that we needed to reconsider our institutional 
arrangement for fisheries in a more serious fashion. Does 
anybody on the panel have a comment on that? Ed? 
Dr. Houde: I think that I generally would agree with 
Stagg and Rothschild. Fishery management is a complex business 
anywhere, and here in the Chesapeake Region where you've got 
three or four states that are involved, allocation problems are 
especially difficult among users. A good institution that gets 
both administrators and scientists together on a commission or 
board, I think that Stagg called it a "Chesapeake Bay Fishery 
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