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I. CALL TO ORDER AND OPENING REMARKS 
Dr. Gar t land introduced the newly appointed chairman of the RAC, 
Dr. Kenneth Berns. Dr. Gartland said the terms of six RAC members expired 
on June 30, 1982. He said the Department of Health and Human Services 
(HHS) is working on completing the RAC roster, but the six new appointments 
have not yet been named. 
II. MINUTES OF TOE JUNE 28, 1982, MEETING 
Car. Berns said the committee would first consider the minutes (tab 1089) 
of the June 28, 1982, RAC meeting and asked Dr. Harris to comment on those 
minutes. Dr. Harris said the minutes were substantively accurate and 
moved acceptance subject to any corrections. 
Mr. Mitchell asked that language in Part III, Proposed Prohibition , be 
amended as suggested by Er. Nightingale. The language, as amended, 
would read: 
"Dr. Nightingale also noted that the Commission on Life Sciences of 
the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) has refused to conduct a 
study requested by the DOD via the Board on Army Science and Tech- 
nology of the Commission on Engineering and Technical Systems. Most 
of the work in that study was to be classified and the IAS Ccmmission 
on Life Sciences has established the principle that it will not 
do classified work. 
"Dr. Nightingale said the NAS Ccmmission on Life Sciences was inwilling 
to conduct studies on biological warfare defense but agreed to coop- 
erate with the Board of Army Science and Technology on a mycotoxin 
study. Mycotoxins were classified as chemicals. She asked Er . Beisel 
to clarify his previous statement that they did no classified work." 
Mr. Mitchell also questioned certain language in Part V, Proposed Revision 
of the Guidelines . The language reads as follows : 
"Dr. Berns said he had discussed the issue with Er. Richardson, and 
they had agreed that a Class 3 specification for Rabies street virus 
was more appropriate for the purposes of the NIH Guidelines; investi- 
gators following the NIH Guidelines would more probably be using 
chemical quantities of viruses, rather than the quantities needed 
for diagnostic purposes on which the CDC classification was based." 
Mr. Mitchell suggested the word "chemical" is not properly descriptive. 
Dr. Berns said the concern was that recombinant DNA techniques will require 
larger amounts of virus than would be used in a diagnostic laboratory. 
He said the word "chemical" is accurate even though it may be imprecise. 
Dr. McKinney suggested the phrase "using quantities different than those 
required for diagnostic purposes" be used. He said this is also imprecise 
but conveys the idea. Dr. Berns said the words "greater than" are probably 
accurate. He suggested the language read: 
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