I06 TiMEHRI. 
Chemistry taught at Queen's College there was no 
attempt at scientific education whatever. He would, 
however, in view of the small attendance, suggest that 
the discussion be postponed. 
Mr, A. R. Gilzean, in seconding the motion, said 
that he agreed with Mr. Hargr eaves; the need for such 
education was fully recognised, and he hoped that some- 
thing might come from the discussion. 
Mr. Jacob Conrad did not think the Botanic Gardens 
should be a school for beginners ; they wanted agriculture 
not botany. 
Prof. J. B, Harrison read the following extrafl from a 
letter from Mr. Jenman : — 
" Taking the books for the past few weeks the people 
employed here numbered ii6 a day, and their earnings 
averaged $2 each a week, less one cent. The Gardens 
have been running now very nigh on 20 years, and 
during that time several thousands of men. women and 
ciiildren have passed through a measure ot training here. 
Everything has been open to everyone to learn, and the 
learning has never been at the option of the individual, 
lor if he did not take the trouble to learn, after a patient 
trial of him, he had to go. The Nursery rather than the 
Gardens is the school for learning. There only boys are 
taken on, little lads from the streets or schools. Many 
of these lads have worked for years here, but for one 
cause or another they have drifted away. The causes 
have been : impatience in having to learn their work 
before they could get man's wage; impatience in sur- 
mising that they were more intelligent than other boys 
and ycrt getting no more pay than they; disgust (this 
only in regard to black and white boys) in being asked 
once, perhaps in a year, (for it never goes past the first 
occasion) to do something that will soil their hands, 
&c., &c. There has been no lack of endeavour in train- 
ing; I have worn my mind and body out on them ; they 
begin sharp at 6 a»m. and get off at 5 p.m." 
