President—1 have this variety, but tlio long 
shoots described tire objectionable. 
Pure man —The Ilavor is not as good as the 
New Rochelle, and it fruits two weeks later. 
Western Wild nine liberties. 
Ward Kit—Wo have white, yellow, and pink 
blackberries growing wild in Kentucky and Illi¬ 
nois. We do not suppose them to be a distinct 
species, but only a departure from the blackberry. 
Mr. Orange has three distinct plants which were 
procured from the woods—they were of a green 
color, becoming somewhat, transparent Mr. El¬ 
liott has called them tlm Albion or Crystal. 
They are conuuon near MuynVille, Ky. They are 
large nud line, and I like them better than the 
New Rochelle or Dorchester. 
Prune*, of 1>. 0_I understand they grew in 
Bath Co. With me they have proved worthless, 
I have found them on the tops of mountains near 
Coudcrsport, Pa. They are considered there vory 
hue when growing in the woods, but in gardens 
they are worthless. 
with our common red raspberry, cultivated ex¬ 
tensively here for the Philadelphia market, they 
both bear admirably from near the ground to the 
top of the stein. In other places where I have 
planted the true Allen Raspberry by itself, it has 
failed. In other oases where I have sold plants, 
I have noticed the same thing—that where the 
Allen w is planted alone it was unproductive, but 
when planted near other varieties if. boro well. 
I have come to the cnneleston also, from exami¬ 
nation of the (lowers, that there is a deficiency 
iu the stamens. 
Quinn—M y Pxpeiienee has been the game as 
that of Mr. Hovoy. The Allen gives a large 
quantity of wood and little fruif- 
Duwnino—H ave fruited the Allen three years. 
The first two years obtained plenty of suckers, 
but no fruit. This year cut. away the suckers 
and obtained plenty of fruit, but of poor quality, 
no better than cominou red. 
Placed on rejected list. 
K inland. 
Warder—T introduce the Kirtland. It is not 
as ample a grower as some, but is the earliest 
berry we have. 
Lawton — Hears abundantly, but needs care 
and protection. It throws up a large number of 
suckers, hut that may be owing to my neglect. 
Warder— Iliu great difficulty is to get suckers 
them in rows two and a half feet apart one way 
ami twelve inches the other. It forms quite a 
number of stools, and bears remarkably well. 
Fuller— 1 have several hundred varieties of 
strawberries, the Triomphe do trend being one of 
the best, and 1 would favor its being placed on 
the li*t. lor general cultivation. 
Sati'kktii w ait, of Pa.—I cultivate strawberries 
for market, and have means of knowing which 
kinds are the most, profitable. I am not prepared 
to say that it, is the best market berry, but I con¬ 
sider it next to the bust. I consider Wilson's 
Saunders— I hope the White and the Red Gon- 
donm will not be confounded, and these recom¬ 
mendations be applied to the hitter, which is a 
poor bearer, and produces poor fruit, with a 
thick skin. 
White Gondouin placed on the list promising 
well.” 
Imperial Jaune, or Imperial Yellow. 
Added to the list without discussion. 
Attractor. 
Scorr—1 would like some information in regard 
to the Attractor, which is to be found in some of 
the catalogues. 
Barry—I 
objection to rc being that it will not stami tlio 
heat so well as the Triumphs, do Gaud. 
Houghton —1 wish to say that Mr.Siitlertliwaite 
is one of the host practical growers of fruit and 
vegetables for market, I have ever seen or known. 
In the culture of the strawberry he has n method 
which fur exceeds all others. He grows the Tri- 
otnpbe de Gaud in rows thirty inches apart. He 
runs the cultivator all summer, and in the fall 
covers them with long manure, and docs it with 
great economy of labor. 
LongwnrtVs Extra Rcil. 
Warder—I name Longwojth’a Extra Red. It is 
productive and very handsome; somewhat Hour; 
of sufficient good flavor, and a very line market 
fruit. 
Milder— I have cultivated Extra Red for live 
years. It has invariably been one of the tinest 
and most productive of strawberries. Exceed¬ 
ingly fine lor preserving. 
BatkHAM—I t is a hardy, vigorous plant., very 
productive, but sour, requiring a. good deal of 
sugar. Preferred the Ilavor to Wilson’s Albany. 
Lady’s Fine, 
Miller—I introduce the Lady’s Pine. 
Harrison— It is too small, though fine and 
delicate in flavor. 
Knox —Its smallness is my main objection to it. 
Fuller—I t is delicious, but too small. 
Jenny l,lod. 
Bated ut— T recommend the Jenny Lind, as 
worthy of general introduction. 
Frost—T his is the best early strawberry we 
have in cultivation. 
AMERICAN POMOLOGICAL SOCIETY 
It is a feeble-growing, cut-leaved va¬ 
riety of the White Grape. 
Prince Albert. 
President— I would like Mr. Barry to givens 
the benefit of his experience with the Prince 
Albert. .... 
Barry— It is a good late currant, much better 
than the Victoria. It. hears well when the plants 
attain a litt’e age. [In answer to a question 
whether the Red Gondouin and the Prince Albert 
were not identical.] Mr. B. said:—They arc quite 
distinct—the Prince Albert being remarkable for 
its upright growth. I think very littlo of the Red 
Gondouin. 
Hovey—T received a very sour currant under 
the name of Red Gondouin,'from one source, but 
from another source I received a currant of fair 
miality, somewhat resembling the Cherry, 
Frost, of N. Y.— Had found the Red Gondouin 
and Long Bunched, of Holland, or Long Bunched 
Dutch, the same. 
I. a Ilative. 
President —There is another variety known as 
J, n Halite. 1 have it in flue condition, and like it 
much, .. . 
Barry— In our experience with enrrants, nna 
after testing many varieties, we have found no 
red currants as large mi the Cherry; next to it comes 
the Victoria. The Prince Albert we prefer to the 
Fertile <PAngers. The Cherry Is only remarka¬ 
ble on acconut of Ha size. Many pick It as soon 
as it becomes red, thinking it must be ripe, but it 
should be allowed to remain on the bushes until 
it becomes of a brown color. It is not a shy 
bearer, unless pruned too much, it should get 
considerable age before being subjected to severe 
pruning. The Vcrsaillaise is one of the best. 
But, the new Red Currants are too much alike, 
and few of them are better, or even as good, as the 
old Red Dutch. 
Currants it kick promise well. 
Imperial Jaune, 
Ctierry, 
Fertile de Pallua. 
(Continued from pnge 311, last week.) 
Princely. 
Scott, of N. J.—I propose the Princely. 
Noble— It is a very good apple, rather sweet¬ 
ish, and excellent for the table. 
Griscom—I t is a fine-flavored, beautiful apple. 
Sweet Bell Flower. 
Warder— I will name the Sweet Bell Flower 
of Ohio. Green Sweeting of Indianapolis, Hague 
Pippin of Indiana, and H ill's Red of Virginia, as 
woithy of cultivation. 
Dyer Apple. 
Saul—I propose the Dyer, or Pomme Royal. 
It came from Mr. Foot, of liercka county, and is 
one of the best of apples. It is of fair size, and 
as regard* quality there is none that can excel it. 
Co it—A n excellent apple. 
Barry —Good. 
Warder— I have never seen it. Is it red or 
white? We have a Pomme Royal, butjnot like 
this. , , 
Tub President— It is a yellow apple—a good, 
fair apple, with a good reputation. 
Saul— Uad received the Pomme Royal as the 
Tompkiua Apple. 
Recommended as promising.well. 
Summer Queen. 
Trowbridge —I propose a Connecticut apple, 
the Summer Queen. It always bears very freely. 
I have seen It. hear when others have failed. 
Parsons —I have also seen it bear very well. 
Quinn—I coueur with the last two speakers. 
Warder— In Ohio, we say it outgrows its own 
roots. It. is good for cooking. 
Rory _We consider it one of our best summer 
apples. . . 
Warder —Mr. Orange has not found any Oil'll 
culty in propagating these blackberries. 
[To be continued,] 
horticultural Jfotcs, 
This Society held an interesting meeting in Rochester 
on the 25th nit. As soon us we lind room we shall giro 
some notes of the proceedings, 
Tub Genesibb Valley Horticultural Society held 
its Autuiuu Exhibition on tho samo day, and tbo fruit 
was exhibited together, umkiog one of the tinest shows 
wo ever witnessed. Tbo display of hardy grapes we 
nover saw equaled, consisting of over seventy platen. 
Fruits Received. —We are indebted to many friends 
for samples of fruit, some of which we havo stored away 
for future examination, when wo will endeavor to com¬ 
ply with tlio requests of our frieuds, and furnish tbo 
correct mitnes. 
— To A. Hitchcock, of Fountain, Minnesota, we are 
obliged for specimens of the Ground Apple, or Hush 
Tomato, ami the Ground Cherry. 
— To Et.LWA.YOKR Baiiuy for a fine basket of pears. 
— To W. R. (DUDLEY, Ogden, for specimens of New¬ 
town Pippin. 
— To Own Scovill, of Medina, N. V., for Stevens’ 
Genesee Pears. Mr. S. says “they aro called by a num- 
talis. , , 
Satterthwait—I t Is the only raspberry l hnvo 
found to stand tlio test. I never found any other 
to pay. as ft market, fruit-, but tho old Purple 
Cane. It Is uniformly an abundant bearer. 
Reed — Its manner ia to propagate by the 
points of the shoots. This berry used to he cul¬ 
tivated extensively for tho Now York market. 
Lewis—T his belongs tn tho class of thimble 
berries, which is a distinct species. 
Hornet. 
Habutson — T rnggost tho Hornet. I have 
kuown It for three years, and it bears enormous 
crops. It is of a liue quality, and for a raspberry 
will pay well. It sells in the market at from 37 
to 5() cents per quart, when others aro selling at 
25. Jt attains a very largo size, and is worthy of 
,i.i Attention. 
Keep—I have tlm Hornet on ray place, and 
think much of it l find it to bear very well. 
Parry —It hears abundantly, and 1 loutul it to 
succeed very well, but I do not think it, very 
hardy. It la well worthy of cultivation. 
Mitciikli,— f have always found it to do well, 
and I concur iu what tho other gentlemen say 
as to its quality. 
President— Ordered it from France, hut re¬ 
ceived Knevett’s Giant I am glad to hear so 
favorable a report. 
Recommended as “promising well.” 
Belle do Poirteuay. 
Feu,KB—1 think well of tho Belle do Fontenay. 
Barry— It is worthy of cultivation, and espe- 
Quinn—I t is early, good, and productive. 
EatiLKMAN—I have known the Jenny Lind for 
five years, but Imvo discarded it. 
Knox— It ia a very early berry ami a good 
bearer. 
Hov*Y—It seems to me to be the Old Virginia 
Scarlet, or Early Scarlet, improved. It is about 
double the size of Early Scarlet, of a good color 
and Ilavor, and productive. 
President —It is very popular in New England. 
Recommended as promising well. 
Scott’s Seedling. 
Eshlem an— i propose the Scott’s Seedling, or 
Lady’s Finger, which I consider identical —a 
beautiful berry, a good bean r; very salable in the 
market, and excellent for preserving. 
Scott —The Lailj/M Finger hiln }>ocn decided, 
the present season, by those who have cultivated 
both varieties, to ho difl- reot from Scott’s Seed 
ling. The Lady’s Finger Is of good quality, but 
Scott's Seedling is deficient iu Ilavor and sub¬ 
stance. 
Harrison— Tho Lady’s Finger originated iu 
Burlington Co., New Jersey. Its color Is desirable, 
and its peculiar firmness fits it for carriage almost 
any distance. 
Ehulem an—I allude to tho Scott’s Seedling of 
Massachusetts, a very long berry, sometimes a 
littlo flattened. 
Parry— Tho Scott’s Seedling is entirely differ¬ 
ent from the Lady's Finger. 
Hovey— I do not know the Lady’s Finger, but, 
the Seolt’s Seedling is a genuine seedling of Mas¬ 
sachusetts, raised by Mr. Scott, a gardener near 
Boston. It was at first called Scott’s Strawberry, 
Versai liaise, 
Fertile d’Angers, 
White Gondouin 
STBAWBEIUUE3. 
Vicomtesse Ucrrienrt. 
Harrison— T move to add the Vicomtesse Her- 
ricart to thclisl, recommending as promisingwell. 
Have tried it for three years. It is very satisfac¬ 
tory in size, quality, and productiveness. 
BAI suers— r have fruited it, for four years. It 
is one of our best strawberries—certainly better 
than any other foreign variety. 
Rutter—I have fruited it two years. It is of 
good flavor, superior to Albany, bat not superior 
to Hovey. 
Esulkman— All persons who have eaten it at 
my place have praised it highly. 
Rutter —It iB equal to the Hooker Seedling. 
EsuLkman—I think it is more productive. It 
Broad welt Apple, 
Buckingham, 
C'iggswi-11, 
Foruwfttdar. 
Gent-.Ht-e Chief, 
JiiffriiiH, 
King of Tompkin3 County, 
Bnouin, 
Umber Twig, 
Stn.nsill, 
White Pippin, 
Pryor's lied, 
Pomme Royal, _ 
CLOTHES BARS, AGAIN, 
Edsh. Rural New-Yorker :—la answer to a 
correspondent, iu a late number ol your journal, 
requesting information for a good pair of clothes 
bars, i would say that I have made a few pairs of 
tho kind described below, and they are pro¬ 
nounced first rate, and I think they are far ahead of 
those made by Wm. Brooks, described in Rural 
Afternoon Session 
list of small fruits that “promise well, 
President— It possesses good qualities as an 
eating fruit, but must be grown in hills and 
receive good culture, or it is worthless. 
Motion to add to the list withdrawn. 
Triomphe de Gaud. 
S. Miller, of I’a.—The Triomphe de Gand I 
have fruited for several years, and there is none 
which I like better for beauty, quality, and pro¬ 
ductiveness. 
Hopkins- 
Hopkins, of N. J.—I have grown tho Cherry 
Currant for three or four years. Found it ex 
ceediog'y productive, and the quality fair—equal 
to Red Dutch. Would he sorry to see it stricken 
from the list. 
Lawton— Don’t like its flavor. Think it infe¬ 
rior to Red Dutch. 
Hovey— I concur with the President in his 
opinion of the Cherry Currant. Cultivated it for 
10 or 12 years ago, and abandoned it; but being a 
nurseryman, and there being considerable de¬ 
mand for it, bad to commence its propagation 
again. Its quality is very poor, and it is unfit for 
the table. It may be of bettor quality in other 
places. It has a large berry, but only a few on a 
bunch, and does not produce more than half as 
much as Red Dutch or Victoria. The shoots are 
large, bat tender, and break easily. 
Downing— Too soar for the table; may do well 
for wine. 
Hooker— The Cherry Currant has improved 
much in my estimation within the past three 
years. In growing small fruits for maiket, I find 
that Eize is a great object. This currant is large, 
vigorous, and productive, and I think should not 
be stricken from the list. 
The Cherry Currant was allowed to remain on 
list “promising well.” 
Vcrsni liaise nud Fertile do Patina. 
Both were passed without discussion. 
Fertile <1‘Angers. 
Hovey — I move we add Fertile d’Angers to 
the list. . . 
President— Tt is as good as the Yersaillaise, 
and l think better. 
Added to the list. 
Bronze Currant. 
Harris— Has any gentleman had any experi¬ 
ence with a new currant, called the “Bronze Cur- 
rani?’* 
Fuller— I have had it several years, and do 
not like it. 
Glorie de Sablons. 
President —Has any gentleman information in 
regard to the Dew striped currant Glorie de 
Bablons? 
Hovey—I t is a Bour currant, and I cannot 
recommend it for cultivation. It is about the 
Hopkins— Have had this variety in fruit, the 
past two years, and most cordially endorse what 
lias been said by Mr. Miller as to its beauty, 
flavor, and productiveness. 
Barry— I consider this one of the finest straw¬ 
berries in cultivation, whether native or foreign. 
T was not aware that this Society had expressed 
an opinion adverse to recommending foreign 
straw berries. I think no such a thing has been 
nor Bhould be done. Wbeu we find a good straw¬ 
berry, no matter whether of foreign or native 
origin, we should recommend it. This Triomphe 
do Gand hus been tested all over the country, and 
everywhere the experience has been that it is a 
large berry, excellent in ilavor, standing the sun 
well in summer, and enduring the cold of our win¬ 
ter without injury. It is also quite productive. 
This was recommended last year as promising 
well, as may bo seen on page 70 of last report, 
though by some error it was not added to the list 
as published in the pamphlet. 
Hovey— [Mr. II. read from last report, remarks 
of Aug. 18th. They are made in the following 
manner:—Take eight pieces, five feet long, one 
inch thick and one and a half inches wide. Boro 
in four of them, and four 
marked by the 
■the top ones to be two 
five live-eighth holes 
holes in the other four pieces, as 
dots in the drawing,- 
inches from the top in them all. The rods are 
three feet long, dressed out round by using a 
six-eighth bead plane, four of the rods to be two 
inches shorter than the other ten. They can bo 
fastened at tho end by driving in a brad, or small 
miiU They can be opened and closed at pleasure. 
They will stand In any small space three feet 
wide, and are light, only weighing about nine 
pounds when made of pine, and the corners and 
the tops rounded as I make them. You can omit 
the hinge, if you see fit. James M. Palmer. 
Tuscola, Mich., 1800. 
Ripe Tomatoe 3 . — Seeing an inquiry in the 
Rural for a recipe to make tomato pickles, I 
send you one which I think Is good. Take ripe 
of Messrs. Prince, Walker and Manioc, condemn¬ 
ing foreign strawberries as unproductive. Mr. 
H. then said:] I do not wish to be understood 
as saying that this Society ever intimated that it 
would not recommend this or any other variety 
of foreign strawberries. 
Barry — I understood from the tenor of Mr. 
Hovey’s remarks, that he considered the senti¬ 
ment of this Society against the introduction 
of foreign varieties of strawberries, and this I 
wish to correct. 
Houghton, of Pa.—I saw the Triomphe de 
Gand this summer, at Jenkinstown, un the 
grounds of Mr. Satterthwait, an extensive grower 
for market. He informed me that the WilBon 
sold at 18 cents a quart, and Triomphe de Gand 
for 38 cents. He considers it an excellent market 
fruit. 
Knox, of Pa.—I have fruited the Triomphe de 
Gand for three years. Out of 100 varieties I have 
under cultivation, I regard it as the very best of 
them all. I have fifty acres in strawberries, and 
would be very glad if the whole were changed 
to Triomphe de Gauds. It seems to me there is 
scarcely an excellence it has not. The plant 
is hardy and very vigorous, as much so as the 
Wilson. I think the healthiest and most vigorous 
plants I ever knew on my place, are of this vati- 
Genesee, 
I.e Baron, 
MeAvo/s Superior, 
Jenny Bind, 
It’was decided to name it the Doolittle Rasp 
berry, and to recommend it for culture. 
Raspberries which promise well, 
Thnnderer, 
Walker, 
Doolittle. 
Rejected— The Allen. 
Cope, 
Calawissa, 
Hornet, 
Remedy for Sore 8.—I have read of a great 
many good cares for both man and beast, but 
havo nover met with ono equal to Wild Black 
Cherry Tree Bark, steeped in water, for sores. It I 
is remarkable for cleansing and healing. Several I 
great cures havo been performed in this section J 
of late.—W. A. K., East Scott, Cart, Co,, N. Y. tl 
Cleaning Window Curtains. —The flies have jrf 
been very numerous tho present season, and havo L 
left my window curtains in a rather sad plight. ^ 
| Tho curtains are of the “transparent window (tax 
shade” order, and I would like to have some of J/Hh 
I. _ * . -n. . an •* - "h 
raspberries. 
Allen. 
Hovey—I move that the Allen be rejected, as 
I think no one will want to cultivate bushes in¬ 
stead of fruit. 
Scott —At the last meeting a vote was taken, 
and it was decided to let this matter rest for two 
years, at tho end of which time the experience 
of cultivators could he heard iu iegard to it. 
Sattkkth waite — The idea of some in this 
section in regard to ibis raspberry, is erroneous, 
which is that its blossoms ate pistilate, and that 
it will not perfect its fruit, without having its 
the lady readers of tho Rural tell me how to 
cleanse them.—Y oung Housekeeper, Erie Co., 
N. Y., 18C0. 
President. —I have had this currant for seve¬ 
ral years, and am much pleased with it. 
Pierce —It succeeds well with me, and thi3 sea¬ 
son wa3 the best currant I had. 
