ML IEW-IOMSH. 
AMERICAN POMOLOGICAL SOCIETY. 
EIGHTH SESSION, AT PHILADELPHIA, 1660. 
(Continued from page 310, last week.) 
Third I)uy—Morning Session. 
GOOSEBERRIES. 
llouniniii Heed ling. 
J. T. Lyon, of Miob.—’The foreign Oooscberrlea 
may m*t be worthy of special consideration, 
being so universally destroyed by mildew, but 
the Mountain Seedling is worthy of cultivation. 
In size, It is considerably larger than Houghton's 
Seeding, and of good flavor. 
Fringe—I n originated with the Shakers, at 
Lebanon, In this State. 
It (-Co mended as promising well. 
Downing's Seedling. 
Lyon— 1 introduce for discussion Downing’s 
Seedling. . , ,, .. 
Khio, of N. J.—I have seen it and consider it 
the best American variety I have met with. It is 
larger than toe Houghton, and I am cultivating 
it with other seedlings. 
Recommended us promising well. 
GHAPE3. 
Taylor, or “Bullitt.” 
Miller, of Pa.— I wish to correct an erroneous 
impivBsiou, as I have been charged with changing 
the name of this grape, received from Judge 
Bullitt, ot K n to city. Dr. Taylor, of Cleveland, 
saj.s It may tie confounded with his new seedling, 
the Cuyanoga. The Taylor or Bullitt giape ue 
serves u place on the list promising well. 
IhriRit, of Bethlehem, Pa.—l move that this 
grape be called the Ts)lor. 
Byraii, of Ky.—l have taken some interest in 
the cultivation of this gtap<\ in certain States, 
and lind that it. stands the climate remarkably 
■welt. It h excellent, and haH proved one of the 
must beautiful vtues I know of. It ripens about 
two weeks before Isabella. 
Rutter— I have seen it growing in Northamp¬ 
ton (I-., Pa,, on wood, fifteen feet long, this sea¬ 
son. Its foliage beautilul, and its leaves smooth. 
Esiilkuan— There are specimens here which a 
number of membets have tasted. They have 
every appearance of being ripe, and yet are quite 
ineiUeieut. 
I!i ttkk— I bad this grape from Kentucky, last 
week; very fine tasted.' 1 think, with duo defer- 
ence to the opinions of my til. tide, the flavor is 
line, and equal to any ont-door grape. I have 
never tasted hotter, excepting the Delaware. As 
for ita growth, there is no question about it. 
Among some eighty or ninety kiuds.it is the best 
grower among those that promise well. 
Rticomuicuded as promising well. 
The name of the grape referred to the commit¬ 
tee on synonyms. 
Jtiiu be. 
Prince—I propose the Raabe grape. As far as 
rny own eXpeiieuce goes, I have lound it a per¬ 
fectly rustic American grape, the sweetest, per 
https, of the American varitun-a. The cluster Is 
small, the flavor very good, aud early In ripening 
1 consider it quite an acquisi 1 iou—one well suited 
to the climate, and will probably grow very well 
in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. The fruit 
is excellent, l would liko to hear from Pennsyl¬ 
vania on the subject. 
Scott — My Idcaaagrce with those of Mr. Prince, 
as to ns sweetness; and l know that it is a rustic 
grape, and that the leaves are Btroug. Its foliage 
is unlike our uatlvo grapes. It Is free from 
mildew. 
Mitcukll, of Pa.—I have cultivated this grape 
for saveiat >eais. The bunches and the berries 
are small, but contains a very large seed. It 
bears euoi moiis crops. It is altogether desirable, 
I think, for special culture. It has a rich juice. 
It has been cultivated not only in Philadelphia, 
but in the neighborhood for the last eight or ten 
years, and wad formerly thought to be a seedling 
of the Catawba. It is second only to the Delu- 
Rtttek—I t is about the size of the Delaware, 
sweeter, but dots not possess its vinous flavor. 
It endures abuse well. 
Recommended as promising well. 
C reveling. 
Prince —It is large, oval, less pulp than Isa¬ 
bella^ about the same sweetness and color, and 
two weeks eailier. 
Mitchell, of Pa.—The Creveling grape in Culti¬ 
vated in my place. It is now very uearly ripe. 
Last year, bore a very heavy crop. The vine that, 
I have, is a young one, and so far as mildew is 
concerned, it is nut ufl'eeied more than any other 
variety. 
l jYnfJ —Several veais ago, f had a small pi nit. 
of this variety, which I planted with rather un¬ 
usual care, among a number of varieties, and 
carefully covered it. For two venrs, I was un¬ 
able to mnch growth, it suffered some from 
mildew, while others were utuifleeted,and I finally 
lost it. It bore no fruit. 
Miller.— I have had the Clara grape for four 
years. It fruited in 18$8 and ’Si). Last winter, it 
was partly winter-killed, not having any protec¬ 
tion. This summer, tt mildewed. 1 think, in con¬ 
sequence of having been partially killed by win¬ 
ter. Any plant injured by the winter does rot 
stand the same chance of escaping in the tall oi 
the year. 
To-Kulon. 
Harrison.— I would like to gain some inform¬ 
ation iu regard to the To-Ivalon, 
Strong—I find it. somewhat liable to mildew. 
I do not know that my experience with this va¬ 
riety will entitle me to any much. My impres¬ 
sion, however, is that it is bettor than the Isabella 
and mildews about the same. 
Hooker—I f is very liable to rot and mildew. 
The vine is hardy and a vigorous grower, and 
when obtained in perfection it is a very superior 
grape, large and hand so me. The wood, though 
exposed all winter, is as hardy even to the ends 
and shoots as the Diana. 1 would not recommend 
ir. It. ripens at the same time as the Isabella; the 
color is not so dat k. 
Prince.— I have a vine, and it Is perfectly 
hardy. I am satisfied that if this Rrape has 
enough open exposure and fiee air, it will not 
mildew. 
I,yon.— I fruited the To-Kalon t.blsyear. When 
I left home, about, the lirst of September, it. was 
considerably colored. The Isabella was about 
halt colored; not, so much as this one. With me, 
it has not. mildewed, though 1 have seen certain 
premonitory symptoms. It is a very strong 
grower. 
(Irani'.—F our years since, I proposed the To- 
Kalon for the list promising well. That was 
the l ist, of a succession of remarkably favoi able 
years for the growth of the vine. The three 
preceding seasons it bad given mack satisfaction. 
The bunch is very large. Ita productiveness is 
equal to any grape 1 have grown. It, lma ripened 
with me every year, and always a week or so 
earlier than the Isabella. It is liable to rot and 
mildew. 
$ 
Esiileman — Iii order to prevent confusion, , 
will mention some of the aynony ms of that variety, 
i think it will prove identical with the Catawissa, 
and Columbia Bloom. 
Pm so*— file Columbia 1 b the name of a grape 
whicn was described In publications on tiie grape 
many years ago. It originated in the District 
of Cnlumoia. 
Goodwin, of Kingston, Pa.—l exhibited the 
grape here, and know something about ita luatory. 
It Has been cultivated some twenty-live years in 
the neighborhood of Columbia County, Pa.—from 
which place it derives one of its names. The 
name of the grape there was originally Creveling, 
from the family who originated if. It has been 
cultivated for a longtime, aud has. to some extern, 
run out the Isabella, on account of Its early ripen¬ 
ing. It ripens as early os the Northern Muscadine, 
ana many think It superior to Isabella. It bangs 
well on the buueb, and makes good wiue without 
sugar. 
On motion, it was resolved, that with our pres¬ 
ent information on this subject, it is not advis- 
aole to recommend any varieties as promising 
well the present session. The Taylor Bullitt grape 
and the Raabe were, therefore, stricken off. 
lltixuinwni 1 )'. 
MtTi'iiKLL—This grape derives it* name from a 
town an 1 p ill Berks county, where it is supposed 
to have originated. It is perfectly hardy, and 
there can be no doubt of its truly native charac¬ 
ter, as the leaves indicate this. The grape being 
a white one with ft Malaga appearance, is rather 
remarkable. It is !at.e, however, and does not get 
fully ripe until about the liist of October. 
Clara. 
Boott—I call attention to the Clara, one of Mr. 
Raabe » seedlings, raised about the same time as 
the Raabe. 1 would like information from those 
who have fruited if. The color is a light amour. 
Dr. Chant, of N. Y.—1 have cultivated It a 
number of years, and fruited It twice. The leaf 
shows its foreign character. It sterns peiKcMy 
hardy, baviug endured the coldest weather with¬ 
out Injury, even where the Isabella has suffered. 
Its quality is good, though not remarkably pro¬ 
duct ve, aud ripens about the same tune us the 
Catawba. It is a good grower, and the foliage is 
as ex- nipt from mildew as most other v.irie'iea 
Mitchell.—M r. Ilsabe has the Clara growing 
in his y ard, iu Pnitudelphis, and invites the entire 
convention to go and look at it. It has borne very 
largo grapes —the ^result of no special culture. 
Clinton. 
Hooker. —I introduce the Clinton. It is not a 
new grape, having been fruited for many years. 
It is very productive, hardy, and makes a very 
good wine. It is of a dark purple color; in very 
compact bundles; not very sweet, but him a vin¬ 
ous flavor; a remarkably good keeper, and when 
pot Up in boxes improves in flavor. Beginning 
to ripen before the Isabella, It retains its fruit on 
the vine until frost. It, is entirely hardy, the 
foliage looking very much liko that of a wild 
vine. 
Prince. —The Clinton is one of the most im¬ 
portant grapes wo have in the country now, but 
its cultivation is much neglected. It is very 
mnch disseminated through the State of New 
York, and it is the most, productive native grape 
I have seen. It is very juicy; and Rood wiue can 
be made from it, though not sweet enough. Asa 
productive, hardy vineyard grape, I consider it 
without an equal. 
Miller.— There is riot a grape In whose behalf 
I lind more pleasure In speaking, than of this. I 
have grown it, lor four years, and it has not known 
such a thing as mildew or rot. As for the wine, 
it la very good though sharp. I have used no 
sugar in making it Tim grapes, when perfectly 
rip'', me quite good. The description given by 
our friend Downing, in the revision of the Fruit, 
Book, “ When perfectly ripe, very good,” I think 
juat the thing. 
Parry. — This grape has succeeded wilh me 
better tlnin any other. I consider onr locution 
unfavorable to the culture of the grape, iu general, 
as many others, spoken well oi iu other places, do 
not succeed with me. When Hie time for the 
grape to ripen arrives, the leaf falls till’. This va¬ 
riety retains Ils leaves to the end and soems ad 
rnirahly adapted for cultivation, with ti«. 
EftHi.BMAN.—1 cultivate a good many varieties, 
but, nothing gives us god a crop of fruit as the 
Clinton. I think this Is the grape we Bhould cul¬ 
tivate. 
Grant.— I have cultivated the Clinton for 
many years. I supposed no one attempted Sts 
dissemination earlier than I did. At, that time, 
we were in want of a grape that would leaeti a 
more Northern latitude than the Isabella. Of la'o 
years 1 have only propagated a few for those who 
wish to make a complete collection. It is a grape 
which will grow for tunny years, with hut little 
care. I have seen it, this year more completely 
stricken down with the mildew than any grape 
which has come under my observation, it colors 
very early in the season, but dot s not ripen or 
become es table until after touched with the frost, 
when it becomes palatable. 
The President. — One of the most vigorous 
frost vines 1 ever saw; but I have seen this grape 
rot a 111 !'. 
Hook HR.— The present season, my large vine of 
the Clinton has mildewed. It is the only instance 
of that variety mildewing, I know of. I was 
much surprised at the fact, but consider it an ex¬ 
ceptional case. 
lioBdUTON. — I have the Clinton grape, and 
would confirm the remark made that it sometimes 
mildews. 1 do not consider it of any value, ex¬ 
cept for its enormous growth, which causes a tine 
shade, suitable for arbors. 
Rider.— I have about two hundred vim-sof this 
variety. It has mildewed under the leaves, and we 
have a very poor crop, rotten and defective. 
When rip-, it makes very good wine. 
Quinn.— l have bad it for four years, but not 
once mildewed, even when the Catawba and Isa. 
bt-lla were entirely covered, 
Loomis, of Indiana.— We have had a valuable 
crop of it, in our State; said to be perfectly ripe, 
it. hours well, better than any other variety. 
Pauline. 
Mitchell— I introduce the Pauline, and would 
like to hear bAw it succeeds. 
Schlky, of N. C —I have not progressed far 
enough In its culture to give any definite or re¬ 
liable Information to the meeting I have been 
favorably impressed with it., and think it an ad- 
miruble grape, uuda good hearer; full Unvoted 
and dHicloe-i; will make an excellent, wine. It is 
of a purple hue, very mnch the color Of the Wat- 
ren; a prolific grower, and ripens inthemoriili 
of August in Ninth Carolina. 
Mu lki;—I have bail the fruit growing for two 
years. It is perfectly tee from mildew, and hardy. 
ItKHCKUANs— The Pauline has been cultivated 
by some persons for upwards of 50 years as a wine 
grape, li ripens the last of September. It, has, 
with us. mildewed, when the leaf ban crumpled up 
It is nut a good grower the first or second year. 
After that it grows well. The alxc ot the bunch is 
t» u Inches, very compact, anti of u pale lilac color. 
Very sweet, and we consider it one of the best we 
have. There is another grape which ought not to 
he confounded with the L'.iullne, culled the Long 
Bunch. 
Allen’s Hybrid 
I introduced the Allen's Hybrid. My experi¬ 
ence in its cultivation is not extensive. I have 
known it for three years. It iB now i ipe, and but 
tor a mist ik* 1 would have some of them on ex¬ 
hibition; most,beautiful in appearance; more com¬ 
pletely transparent and lucid than any I have 
grown In the open air. Much of the Clmsselus in 
cearacter, with ft portion of wine added 
St km hi u—Have not fruited it, but it seems to 
mo to be one of the best, of grapes, 
The President — I have great respect for the 
opinions of the gentleman who have -poken, but 
we have understood. In Massachusetts, that, tills 
grape was rather late in ripening. 1 concur in 
what bus been said in relation to the excellence 
of the fruit. It reatiutilea the Glinssolus, aud tins 
what 1 particularly like, a little amuck of the 
native aroma—jnstenough to make it piquant. I 
think it, a very superior grape. Mr. Allen Informs 
me be I,as quantities of the Isabella and oilier 
varieties, which have been Injured by mildew, 
when this has not been touched, it is a most 
vigorous grower, and it) flow ripe. 
Rodgers’ Hybrids. 
Prince—I would like a report of the success 
with Rodgers’ Seedlings. 
Grant— My information is not very extensive, 
having had but, two years’ observation. I enter¬ 
tain strong hopes in regard to them, based chiefly 
upon one yea, s’ growth. A tnnng them are varie¬ 
ties which approach the Black II imhurgb. hut are 
much earlier,—earlier than the Isabella. Number 
5 which is on exhibition. I remember an one ot 
i,he host I give my opinion from the grapes 
grown at Salem, I saw them on the vincH there, 
In the open ground. 
The President— I have neverseen Mr. Rodgers’ 
vines, ano it, is not my custom, occupying an offi¬ 
cial position as I do, through your kindness, to 
give my name to fruits, ot even endorse them, tin- 
less Well satisfied With tliftlr properties. Mr. 
Rodgers Is a very modest young gentleman, oc¬ 
cupying the Keen-Yury’s birth in an office in Salem, 
and him devoted a portion of hi* time to the art of 
fruit culture, I confess I w»* surprised when he 
sent me his grapes, ami wrote that he himself had 
produced them from seed. From those gentlemen 
who have received samples of these giapeu I 
would like to hear. I will "nly stale, that 1 was 
much pleased with the good quality of many of 
them. The vln> s arc grown two feet apart being 
ruu op to a height of ‘AD feet along the terrace. 
Home of them I thought quite equal in size and 
quality to the Diana, but with a larger berry and 
larger bundles. Those crossed with Black Ham¬ 
burg, were quite »h hunlaomo as any foreign 
bunches of Black Hamburg!. Boinggrown under 
these circumstances so wdl and handsomely, 1 
leave been induced to believe that they might he 
grown as line as the Blaek Hamburg. I would 
state that I have been favored with au examina¬ 
tion of them, and havo written to Mr. R. that I 
believed he had commenced a now era in the cul¬ 
tivation of the grape. 
Miller— Mr. Rodgers was kind enough to send 
me twenty-si veu vai letiea of his seedliugs. No. 
I, which resembles the Sweetwater, was my fa¬ 
vorite. and I think the best, of the lot. Nos. 1, la, 
and 19, are the only ouch that I can highly recom¬ 
mend. The others were not fully ripe. Home of 
them I think may be well adapted to Southern 
growth. 
Tub President—I think we ought to be very 
cautious indeed in recommending ucw varieties. 
I mention Mr. Rodgers’ grapes os being very line 
without having received any extra cultivation. 
At the Horticultural Society of Salem they re¬ 
ceived a premium, as being better than tho Con- 
cord, and therefore 1 arose to state what 1 have 
stated, and not to any anything which might 
particularly interfere with the growth of these 
grapes. I know that No. I iB a splendid bunch, so 
is 3:t, hut I desire to refrain from commending 
anything until fully satisfied with its excellence. 
Prim K—1 make no comment upon these grapes, 
I asked merely to have them brought forward. 1 
obtained front Mr. Rodgers 12 varieties. Several 
of these arc very late. Mr. Rodgers seems will¬ 
ing to elicit information from others, and the 
suggestion made that some ot them are suited 
onl y to .Southern States, may he Of use. 
.Miller—I never opened a box of grapes, the 
appearance of which astonished mo bo much as 
these, on account of their enormous size, some 
being even larger than the Hamburg. 
Campbell, of Ohio—The growth Is more vigor¬ 
ous than Black Hamburg. I have understood that, 
they mildew in Mr. Rodgers’ garden, and that 
is the case in southern Ohio. 
Strong —I found mildew on Mr. Rodgers’ 
grapes, more than on any others, but l am not 
sure it was a fair test, as they were moro exposed. 
tinman at Shrewsbury, who last winter made 
17,000 gallons of wine, who has this grape In 
culture. It was ripe some time ago. It makes a 
fine growth, ripens ita wood well, aud is perfectly 
hardy. 
Anna. 
ITocghton— l have seen anil tasted this grape 
at. Dr. Grant’s, and like the flavor. I have not yet 
fruited it. hut it is an excellent grower. Dr. 
Grant says it is a 1 idle inclined to rot. 
Rki ii—-I would like some information from Dr. 
Grant In regard to this variety. I think It lias a 
bard pulp. 
(jit \fiT—It. 1ms a pulp about liko Catawba, and 
requires nearly aa long a season to ripen. In a 
week or two, it the weather is favorable, tt will be 
ripe, and then is exceedingly rich and of high 
flavor. 
Harrison— I have fruited the Anna several 
years. I think it improves with the age of the 
He. The pulp, when beginning to ripen, is quite 
hard, but, by hanging ou the vine until well 
ripened it,becomes tender. It, has a good deal of 
the Gltssselas flavor. I have from 15 to 20 varie¬ 
ties beariug, and this, with the exception of tho 
Delaware, pleases moro tastes than any other, ft 
makes a good growth, commencing to ripen be¬ 
fore the Catawba, but often is not fully ripe until 
after that variety. 
Ontnrio. 
Tub President —T would like to hear from 
those who have seen and tasted tho Ontario. 
PkinOE —I think it will provo to bo the Union 
Village. 
Miller —T received it from Mr. Reid, of Canada 
West, and It, is said to have originated on or near 
his place at Port, Dalhonsie, on the hank of 
Lake Ontario. When ripe it, is perfectly luscious. 
The berries arc »noTtnously large, of the size ot 
Black Hamburgh, aud the hunches will weigh 
from I to 1.) pounds. The leaf is not, pubescent 
like Union Village. It is a purely native grape. 
Barky —I saw a grnpu said to he the Outarfo. 
nt Rochester, which had a very thick skin, ano 
which l thought, worthless. Others have expressed 
the opinion that it is a foreign grape. 
Miller- It is ft native grape. There can be no 
doubt, on tins point. It is what, I call a buttery 
grape, and I think grapes should bo divided into 
classes ns buttery, watery, and fleshy. 
Prince l think tho Ontario is a native. 
Ruin I think there can he no doubt, of this. I 
have grown only a few bunches. They are of tho 
same color as Isabella, but more oval. 
Balter, of Rochester, N. V.—Two years ago 1 
obtained Ontario vines and fruited one tfle first 
season. It is certainly anativo. and 1 think a very 
good grnpo. The skin is about us tongh as Isa¬ 
bella, and the pulp is about tho same. It is a very 
strong grower. 
Vick, of N. Y.—1 saw this grape at Mr. Salter’s. 
H resembled the Isabella very much, though 
larger. Tho skin was quite as tough, and in pulp 
and flavor it was much the same. I do not think 
any one could distinguish it from Isabella by the 
taste. 
Salter—I think it is a little sweeter than 
tho Isabella. 
[Here the discussion of Grapes was concluded. 
Iu the next issue we will finish our report.] 
was exceedingly poor. We have often seen it far 
excelled by County Societies, There were per¬ 
haps a dozen varieties of potatoes exhibited, a 
couple of bushels in all. Many of them were 
named wrong, while others seemed entirely un¬ 
worthy of a name. 
Roots have done well tbo present season, and 
they were shown In tolerable quantities. Bnta 
Bugas, Carrots, Mangel Wurzei, anil White and 
Yellow Sugar Beets wore line and large, and re¬ 
minded us of similar exhibitions in Canada. 
Cabbages were large and well headed, and they 
were shown iu pretty good numbers. Wo were 
.inn-h pleased tn seo a line lot of Savoys, exhibited 
wo belie VO, by J, II. Rathbonc. This, in our opin¬ 
ion, is about the only winter .cabbage fit for tho 
table, and yet, it is seldom grown, and very rarely 
seen at any of our exhibitions. 
As usual, hosts of mammoth vegetable produc¬ 
tions, labelled Squashes, were on the tables. It is 
about time tho culture of these great and coarse 
Mexican pumpkins was abandoned. At all events 
it la a disgrace to the whole squash family to la¬ 
bel them Squashes, and yet some of them bore tho 
honored name of “ Hubbard Squash.” If, how¬ 
ever, the committee ever saw or tasted a good 
“Hubbard,” they could not. bo deceived. 
For tho first time we observed the Kohl-Rabi on 
the tallies. This vegetable is becoming popular 
in Europe for feeding stock. 
Tho Committees should take especial pains to 
correct wrong names, and iu this way they may do 
exhibitors a great service, and do something to¬ 
wards correcting the confusion that now exists. 
We observed the While Pole Bean named Wind¬ 
sor, and a white round bean labelled Lima. 
HORTICULTURE AT THE N. Y. STATE FAIR. 
Marion. 
Btkoml —I introduce the Marion. It answers 
the description of the Ohio Marion. The size 
nearly up to the Isabella; color, black; and the 
fruit presenting quite a fair hunch; perfectly free 
of rot or any indications of disease. 
Prince. —1 would remark that tho first Marion 
was sent out by Mr. Long worth; tho second by 
Mr. Shepherd, of Marion. I ask the gentleman 
which of these varieties this is? 
STbono. —I received my variety front Dr. Grant. 
Grant.— Mr. Strong tins, undoubtedly, tho one 
disseminated by Mr. Longworth. That dissemin¬ 
ated by Mr. Shepherd is better known as tho York 
Madiera. 1 have received cuttings from Mr. 
Shepherd, that have proved id*-utical with the 
York Madiera, or Schuylkill Madiera. It Is a 
much less vigorous grower, and does not ripen as 
early. The Marion is of the Clinton larmly, 
blackens early, but is not fit to eat until touched 
by frost. Its berries aud bunches often attain 
great, size. 
Prince.— I would like some gentleman to 
specify the distinguishing traits of the Marion 
aud Logau. 
Grant. —The leaf of the Logan ib not more 
than half as large as the leaf of the Mai ion, and 
it beats much earlier. A characteristic never 
wauling in the Marlon, is it» strengrh of vine, and 
the large red tendrils peculiar to this variety, by 
which it cliDgs to a tree or any other support with 
remarkable tenacity. 
liintly* 
Lyon—T here has been a grape before the com¬ 
munity for a long time, called tho Emily, There 
is much confusion respecting it. 1 have received 
vines under that name which arc worthless. J 
would like to know something of tho characteris¬ 
tics of t,liu true variety. 
Miller— I obtained what I supposed to he the 
Emily from head-quarters, but It proved worth¬ 
less—not even lit in graft upon. 
Mitchell —Hi Justice to Mr. Raabe, it should he 
statue that he has another grape somewhat resem¬ 
bling this, and the two have in some way become 
confounded. One is much better than the other. 
M a ssuc li IlSCtlM W b ite. 
Rutter —The Massachusetts White has obtained 
a good deal of notoriety at tho east. It would be 
well for gentlemen to give members present their 
opinion of Its character. 
STRONG—The least said about this grape and 
the less it. is cultivated the better, as it is entirely 
worthless. 
[This opinion was fully endorsed by the Presi¬ 
dent, Messrs. Reid, Rutter, and others.] 
Norton’* Virginia. 
Prince—I introduce Norton’s Virginia. I re¬ 
ceived it several years ago from Dr. Norton, of 
Richmond, Va. It was then said to be a hybrid be 
tween Meunii-r, of France, and some native grapes. 
It appears now that this Virginia grape iBfonncl 
wile iu various sections of that Btatc. A grape 
sent from Colombia, H. C., by James G. Genyard, 
and which he stated he found wild, some SO years 
ago, is very much like this Nortou, only a great 
improvement ou it. I saw by Statements last 
year, tbat'vines of it are found in diflertni parts 
of tho south. It is a black grape, exceedingly 
hat dy, will stand tho winters of Massachusetts, and 
will succeed in vineyard culture. There is a gen- 
Tiie show of fruit at the New York State Fair 
was all that friends of the Society, and the lovers 
of fruits could desire. The building was largo, 
and somo improvements on the arrangements of 
last year were made, though these wo yet con¬ 
sidered quite defective. One main table passed 
through tho center of the building, and tills was 
no wide that Judges could examine the frnit.B in 
the center with difficulty, and all that spectators 
could do, was to distinguish between apples and 
pears. No comparisons could bo made between 
varieties, nor could the characteristics of each 
he observed with any satisfaction. In the center 
of this table, and at equal distances, three ranges 
Of shelves, in diamond form, were made for flow¬ 
ers, so that, to examine them the Judges were 
compelled to mount the tables, to the great danger 
of their necks and the plates of fruits among 
which they were obliged to walk. Another, and 
a great mistake iu tho arrangement, of which 
most of the Judges sorely complained, was tho 
straogo mixing up of collections and varieties, 
causing the Judges unnecessary labor, and in fact 
preventing them from doing justice to exhibitors. 
For example, a premium was offered for the best 
twenty varieties of apples. All the twenties that, 
competed for this premium should have been 
placed together, and then tho Judges could have 
found them without trouble, and made the neces¬ 
sary comparison. But, instead of thin, the twenties 
wore scattered over every part of the halt, mixed 
in with varieties that were competing for the 
prizes offered for tho best collection and for the 
best twelve, and hours of vexatious labor was 
performed by the Committees iu ascertaining the 
whereabouts of tho fruits they were called upon 
to examine. And, when found, one twenty was in 
one end of the hall, another in tho middle, and 
another on temporary aide-tabies. Now, we do 
say that under these circumstances, no Committee 
can do justice to exhibitors, without performing 
an amount of labor to which they should not he 
subjected—without, in fact, re-arranging the fruit, 
so as to hi mg all contending for tho Bamo premi¬ 
um together. 
But, notwithstanding the had arrangement, or 
want of arrangement, the show of fruit* haa 
not been excelled, if equalled for mauy yeais. 
There were over 3,000 plates of apples and pears 
on the tables, mostly excellent specimens, and 
making a magnificent show. What pleased us 
particularly was the large number of small col¬ 
lections of apples and pears, exhibited by ama¬ 
teurs, mostly farmers of the surrounding country, 
who showed specimens of fruit that would have 
beer) creditable to any exhibition. Fdlwnnger & 
Barry, as usual, made a grand display, composed 
of 200 varieties of pears, 1-10 of apples, 25 plums, 
aud 8 native grapes. John Donetlan <fc Co. pre¬ 
sented 65 varieties of apples, 25 of pears, and a 
splendid dish of peaches, which took the first 
premium. Col. E. C. Frost presented a tine lot of 
the Tompkins County KiDg Apples, which from 
their showy appearance attracted considerable 
attention. 
Foreign GrapeB were shown in fair quantities, 
and the display of hardy grapes was good, and 
among them we noticed tho Franklin and Ontario. 
The season was too late and unfavorable for an 
exhibition of flowerB, and with the exception of 
a few dahlias and live or six boquets, there was 
nothing worthy of being shown, if we except one 
lot of verbenas, which was very good. 
Vegetables. — The exhibition of vegetables 
MANGO AND APPLE PICKLES, COOKIES, &c. 
Eds. Rural New-Yorker: — Being a warm 
friend to your excellent paper, I would like to add 
my mite, and also make some inquiries which I 
havo not yet, seen iu the Rural. 
Mango I’icklich. —Will some one be so kind as 
to inform me how to make Mango Pickets? 
Pick led Apples. —Tn the Rural I saw an in¬ 
quiry how to make Pickled Apples. I think my 
way excellent. Take seven pounds of apples, 
pare, and steam them until you can run a fork 
through them easily; then put them into a pan 
with three pints of vinegar, three pounds of 
sugar, one-half cup of spices, (equal parts, cloves, 
cinnamon, and allspice,) and cook them the same 
as you would preserved fruit, that is, till they are 
cooked through. Next put them into a jar snug¬ 
ly, and boil the liquid down to a good thickness, 
poor over the fruit, and when used for the table, 
servo with liquid just as wo do with any preserves. 
I prepare pears, cherries, and peaches In the same 
manner. Wo think this way excellent. 
Cookies. —One enp of thick sour cream; one 
cup of sugar; half cup of butter; cinnamon to 
taste; soda as usual. My husband thinks they 
can’t bo beaten, so they must be good. 
Mt. Morris, N. Y., fe60. Mas. Algina T. 
Machine for Quartering Apples. —Take a 
piece of board, — say three feet long and six 
inches wide,—make a hole through one end four 
and a half inches in diameter (more or less, as 
you please.) Break the edge off an old Bcythe, 
two inches longer than the hole in the board is 
in diameter, and have two of these edgeB. Take 
an old axe and cut each scythe edge half in two, 
one from the edge toward tho back, the other 
from the hack toward the edge, and cross in tho 
center whore you havo ent them. 1’ut this knife 
across tho hole iu tho board, by sawing places 
half through, fasten on a lever eighteen inches 
long, to press tbo apple through, and it is done. 
This is easily made, and works first rate.—E. B. 
Tanner, Attica, Ohio, 1860. 
Pickling Ripe Tomatoes.— Noticing a request 
iu one of the Rukals for a recipe for pickling 
ripe tomatoes, I send mine, which all lovers of 
sharp pickles pronounce excellent. Scald and 
peel your tomatoes, sprinkle a thin layer of sugar 
in tho bottom of the jar, then put in a layer of tho 
tomatoes, and so on. Tho small ones I put in 
whole; larger ones, slice. Will be ready for use 
in two weeks, or will keep till tomatoes come 
again.—A. E. Waterbury. 
Extracting Grease from Woolen Fabrics.— 
I notice your journal is made the medium of in¬ 
formation for vurious practical matters, and I 
want to inquire of somo of your numerous read¬ 
ers the best means of extracting grease spots from 
woolen goods. Can it be done?—M. P., Auburn. 
Ornamental Leaf Work.—I believe it is be¬ 
coming customary, if anybody wants to learn any¬ 
thing, to ask tho Rural. I would like to learn 
bow to prepare and put on autumn leaves for orna¬ 
menting boxes, picture frames, “what nots,”&e.— 
S., Windsor, N. Y., 1860. 
Cleaning Ribbons, &c. —Will some one give, 
through the columns of the Rural, a method for 
cleaning ribbons; also a recipe for coloring pur¬ 
ple, and oblige—A Reader. 
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