vine, four yenrs old trained on trellis, arm system of 
pruning; fruit picked 1th of October; saccharine 16.5 
per cent., or 79 by the “ must scale.” 
8. Isabella-Grown by Nichols. Sceloy&Co.,at Vine 
> alley; soli ntid exposure, age c.f vine, inode of 
training and pruning same ae No. 3 j fruit picked itb 
of October; saccharine 16,5 per cent 
3. Clinton-Grown hy K W. Kimber. Naples. N. V ; 
tol , irravely ; rtnc, lire years old, forty feet Ion*, 
Iralntril on trHU* Jinrt Mirmltig on tree **n cast aUJe of 
building: picked lih of October; saccharine Id per 
cent., or ft- by the *' must scale.'' 
la r..neor.l-Grown by Nichols. Seeley A Co., At 
J.ino Valley; soil, exposure and ago of vine same as 
bo. 3; trained on posts, fun system of pruning: fruit 
picked on the 2Uli of September-; saccharine 18 per 
cent., or Si by the '•must settle ’’ 
II. Concord-Grown by Janies A. Green. Rush. N. 
' .; soil, exposure, ago of vine, mr.do ,, f tru inln« and 
Pruning-«me as No. 4. fruit .picked 101b of Septem¬ 
ber; saccharine 13 pur cent., or 68 hr the "must 
m*1«” J. Larrowe, 
John Biedkr, 
J. C. Smith. 
Committee. 
MANSFIELD PEAR. 
Frutt medium size, obovate; pea green, 
yellow ground, mostly covered, traced and 
marbled with smooth, yellow, brown russet; 
stem straight, long, medium size; cavity 
regular, deep, narrow, acute*; calyx small, 
with pointed, flattened, recurved segments; 
basin deep, very broad and open; flesh yel¬ 
lowish white, granulous, breaking, moder¬ 
ately Juicy, rich, sweet, slightly aromatic; 
core medium; seeds blackish; season last 
September and early October. The speci- 
0W0 
WESTERN N. Y. HO RT. SOCIETY. 
DiHCUMion on Apple* at the Winter Meet¬ 
ing at Bochenter, January 10. 
THE BEST SUMMER APPLE. 
The Red Astrachan was named by Messrs. 
Ell w anger, W. B. Smith, Conover, Frost 
and Maxwell. 
Hayward (Rochester)—It bears every 
other year regularly, and the fruit is six 
weeks in ripening. The birds are apt to pick 
the red fruit. It is objectionable for market 
that one car pick only a portion of fruit at 
once. 
P. C. Reynolds (Rochester)—The fruit is 
finely colored, and sells well on that account. 
F. P. Root (Sweden)—With me it grows 
very irregular and not half the fruit is lit for 
market. 
H. T. Brooks (Wyoming)—We must be 
sure we can grow the Red Astrachan before 
we recommend it. We need some good early 
varieties. 
IIayward 
GRAPE GROWERS’ MEETING. 
Annual Meeting of cite New York State 
Grape Grower*’ Association at Rochester, 
Jan. 18, 1870. 
Continued from page t>3. Inst No. 
Varictie* anti Soil. 
Pres. Pottle—I started with the belief 
that the Concord was a very poor grape, but 
I had to reverse that. The demand for this 
variety has grown, and I think it is unwise 
to discard it in view of ibis fact. The same 
is true of the Hartford Prolific, For both 
THE SAL WAY PEACH. 
BY F. R. ELLIOTT. 
THE RUBICON APPLE. 
Mr. A. F. Moon of Paw-Paw, Mich 
Tite Sal wav is a peach of foreign origin, 
and I think either originated with Thomas 
Rivers, England, or at least was by him 
first introduced to notice Its very vigorous 
habit and period of late maturity cause me 
i to suppose it will prove a valuable variety 
, says 
in the Michigan Fanner, that some twenty 
years ago this apple was raised from seed 
upon the farm of Mr. Barnum, Van Burnt 
county, by Mrs. Ball, and planted out on 
the farm of Mr. Ball, adjacent to Barnum’s, 
and was known as the Ball apple. 
It was afterward named “Rubicon.” 
It soon attracted attention for its 
beauty, and excellent keeping and 
other qualities. When well grown 
it is a bright red, with an orange 
\ cheek on the under side. During 
the early part of winter they are an 
excellent table fruit, and lmve been 
kept in good condition to July and 
l August. It is represented as a thrifty 
l grower and good bearer, succeeding 
J better on sandy soils than on heavy 
! clay lands. It commands a very high 
j price, selling at §1 to $1.25, when 
j good winter fruit of other varieties 
j brings only fifly cents per bushel. 
/ It is extensively planted. 
I have fruited the Astrachan 
ten years, and find it often one-sided and 
knotty. Don’t think wo have a first class 
summer apple. 
F. it. Elliott (Cleveland)—The quality 
of not ripening evenly is a valuable one for 
it as a market fruit. It, prolongs the season, 
and the market is not glutted. Wo consider 
it one of the best market varieties at the 
West. 
E. W. Sylvester (Lyons)—The Keswick 
Codling exceeds it in profuse bearing, but 
does not look as well. The Keswick Codling 
will equal the Baldwin iu fruitfulness. 
Bcooks—I like the Washington apple. 
Elliott— The influence of t his Society is 
fell over the entire West; we should be 
on refill in statement. The Ifed Astrachan 
i. much more profitable for market than the 
Keswick Codling. 
Sylvester— The Red Astrachan will sell 
best on account of color; but the Keswick 
Codling will bear the most; acre matched 
against acre, the Keswicks will bring the 
most money. 
F W. Lay (Greene)—The Beauty of Kent 
soi l well last season in the Boston market. 
Smith—T here arc better varieties for fam¬ 
ily use than the Astrachan. 
II. E. Hooker (Rochester)—What is the 
value ot Williams’Favorite for market? It 
conus a little after the Red Astrachan. 
Elliott—W ould not its period of ripen¬ 
ing be against its profit? 
Hooker—I don’t know that any summer 
variety is profitable. 
Smith —The Tetofsky is a new variety 
here. I fruited it a dozen years ago, and 
then much preferred the Primate, hut it is 
a good bearer and fair quality. 
Qim.mby— I would select the Red Astra- 
ehun aiul Golden Sweet for summer apples— 
ono tart and one sweet. 
Bsooks—S ummer or sweet varieties don’t 
sell well enough to pay; but the demand 
may change in the future. The public are 
not willing to pay the cost of getting up a 
good quality. 
Hooker— Every family should he supplied 
with a succession of summer apples. Named, 
Early Harvest a good bearer, excellent for 
Primate, 
J “Non Young" Pencil.—About four 
yenrs ago a Mr. Young of White Co., 
Tenn., happened to beat a friend's house 
nbout the first of July, who remarked 
to Mr. Young that his Hale's Early 
roaches were about ripe, and ho would 
Boon tun e ripe peaches. Mr. Young re¬ 
marked that lie had had ripe peaches 
for two weeks on Ids plane. His 
friend said ho guMscd not —for Hale’s 
Early was the earliest peach known. Mr. Young 
asked him to go homo with him and lie would 
convince him of t he facts. lie did so, and they 
found a few only left, which the friend pro¬ 
nounced superior to his Hale’s Early, both in. 
Si2e and flavor, and from that time to the 
present they lie M! been i he only peach that tins 
been propagated a* an early peach hero. It is 
in size count to Crawford's Early, ami resembles 
if in shape and flavor; seed small. It. Is u free¬ 
stone.—A. J - Spknckr, Cumberland C’o., Torn, 
THE 6ALWAY PEACH 
of these varieties the demand increases, and | the 
it is best to grow them. oui 
Mr. Craink —I get more profit ft'orn the 1 
Delaware — more pounds per vine — than era 
from the Concord. The latter did not fur- ant 
tilize well with us last season, and rotted auj 
also. The Hartford Prolific is profitable. 
It is apt to be thought ripe when only color- j 
etL Second class fruits are the most profit- f a p 
able, in view of their hardiness aiul bearing , ne 
quality. T 
Mr, Moore (Rochester)—I claim the Diana tha 
Hamburg to be the best American grape in and 
quality. It is only fit for amateurs to culti- :it ( 
vatc. I consider it hardy. 
Pres. Pottle —A year ago last fall the nw , 
Iona ripened with the Delaware with me. and 
Last season it hardly ripened with the Ca- T 
tawba. I think the difference attributable jfj 
to the season. I esteem it a better 
THE SALWAY PEACH—OUTLINE. 
for the peach growers in the Central South, 
or say on the Delaware, and in Southern In¬ 
diana, Ohio, Illinois and Missouri; while its 
very large size and showy character con¬ 
nected with its quality of flesh, which, ac¬ 
cording to pomological rules, will rank as 
very good, will certainly give it profitable 
value as a market sort. T do not know of its 
having been anywhere fruited in this coun¬ 
try as yet, except in the Orchard House of 
II. H. Hunnkwell, Esq., Wellesley, near 
Boston, Mass., where, under the care of the 
capable and intelligent gardener, F. L. Har¬ 
ris, it 1ms produced many specimens meas¬ 
uring from eleven and a half to twelve inches 
in circumference. It was from a specimen 
received from Mr. Harris that tny accom¬ 
panying drawing and description was made. 
Tree vigorous; leaves large, broad and 
thick, with uniform glands. Fruit very 
Fruit on the Hudson.—Among ft mass of cor¬ 
respondence which it has been a physical impos¬ 
sibility for us to examine critically, wo find the 
following item from I. W. S., written Inst Sep¬ 
tember:Antwerp raspberry raising is a very 
important business In what is termed the Ant¬ 
werp region of the Hudson^ extending: from the 
Highlands north to Kingston, embracing the 
towns of Newburgh, Cornwall, New Windsor, 
Marlboro, Pluttelcil), Esopus and New Paltz. 
The annual sales of fruit average neat' one mil¬ 
lion of dollars. Although the Antwerp ia the 
main fruit crop, there are many hundreds of 
acres planted and being planted with currants, 
gooseberries, strawberries, Wilson and Kitni- 
tinny blackberries, Clark. Doolittle and Miami 
raspberries. Vineyards are also rapidly multi¬ 
plying." |( ) 
Best Strawberries. Of varieties of strawber¬ 
ries which have boon widely tested, the Wilson, 
Ida and Triompho do Gandhave the best record. 
The Wilson is on all hands conceded a variety to 
grow for market profits. The Ida Is one of the 
very earliest, and continues bear! tiff steadily and 
abundantly even to the time of the very latest. 
It is not as acid as the Wilson, almost as pro¬ 
ductive, and In the hands of many growers Is as 
large in size. The Trlomplie de Garni is the one 
sort of foreign origin which succeeds generally; 
and while some few localities have done as well 
with Jueunda, Napoleon III., &c., none bear so 
universal a record of valuo in the quality, size, 
productiveness and hardihood of vine as the 
Triompho do Gatld.—Anpi. 
grape 
table or cooking; Red Astrachan; 
tender and delicate; Early Strawberry—a 
delightful fruit; and Early Joe. For sweet 
take the Sweet Bough. These bring one 
through to autumn. 
Hayward—I can’t grow fine Early Joes 
though 1 have been trying for ten years. The 
Early Harvest is not a reliable bearer. • 
E. A.. Bronson (Geneva)—I can strongly 
recommend the Primate. It will give a daily 
family supply for eight weeks. Occasionally 
it shows some water core. 
Col® (Lyons)—Early Strawberry has been 
of more value to me than Red Astrachan. 
Fuost —The Early Joe is the best early 
apple for eating, but if does not grow fair. 
Hk»i two Varieties of Fall Apple for Profit. 
Frost —Named Porter and Maiden’s Blush. 
Eliavangick—N amed Dutchess of Olden¬ 
burg and Maidens Blush. 
Leary —Alexander and Malden’s Blush. 
Bronson —Once knew Maiden’s Blush to 
bring as much in market as Bartlett pears. 
Smito —The Porter is an abundant bearer. 
What about the Fall Jenneting? 
Hayward —It bears every other year pro¬ 
fusely ; generally fair. 
Sylvester— The Fall Orange is produc¬ 
tive and excellent. Named that and Maiden’s 
Blush. 
Smith (Geneva)—Named Fall Orange and 
Twenty Ounce, though the latter Is strictly 
an early winter sort. 
IIoag— Fall Orange hears well, but half 
the fruit is not marketable. 
Cole (Lyons)—Have grown the Fall 
Orange since 1821 and do not recollect a 
single failure in quantity or quality. 
Smith (Geneva)—With me it will produce 
better than tho Baldwin. Soil, gravelly 
loam. 
IIavward— The Tallow Pippin is a shy 
bearer. 
A Nut for llic Anll-Itooe GrnRtw* lo Crack,— 
In the spring of 1846 we sold Alva Nash fifty 
root-grafted apple trees, which he planted on a 
farm now in the corporation of this village, and 
this fall one of tho Baldwin trees yielded thirty* 
three bushels of apples; and tills tree is only an 
average size of the whole fifty. Truly this will 
furnish no new ideas for those who have had 
the most experience or observation: but wo 
sometimes see articles In the papers pretending 
that apple trees will not do as well root-grafted, 
or claiming tint it violates some natural law. 
Such articles must be furnished by those with¬ 
out experience.—E. C. Fuost, Watkim, N. Y. 
THE MANSFIELD FEaH. 
j than the Catawba, and freer from disease. 
On Catawba lands I would plant it. Iu a 
dry, warm season it will ripen with the Dela¬ 
ware ; m a cool, wet one it will be found 
with the Catawba. Where the Catawba 
fails I should hardly plant the Iona. 
Mr. Bushnell (Hudson River)—In 1861 
the Iona ripened with the Delaware. The 
ripening of the first crop is variable, but 
there is improvement with age of vine. It 
requires a dry season to bring it to perfec¬ 
tion. 
Mr. Elliott— I have found the Iona very 
variable on the Lake Shore, but it is grow¬ 
ing in favor. Unless the fruit is kept a long 
time there is too much acid in it to make a 
good nine. 
Mr. Rinoueberg—T he Iona is one of our 
best wine grapes if we only ripen it with the 
Delaware. The Delaware and Iona mixed 
Tint MANSFIELD PEAR—OUTLINE. 
large, from ton to twelve inches in circum¬ 
ference; form roundish oblate, with a broad 
deep suture extending beyond the apex; 
skin downy; color creamy yellow, with a 
warm, rich, clear, crimson red cheek in the 
sun; flesh deep yellow, one and one-quarter 
inch thick, stained with red at the stone, 
juicy, melting, rich, with an apricot flavor, 
sweet, very good; stone medium, not par¬ 
ticularly rugged, but with one edge sharp 
and a sharp point at apex; season, middle 
to last of October. 
Apple* for Minnesota.— 1 The Hennepin, Minn., 
Horticultural Society recommends the following 
list of apples os most likely to succeed itt that 
State; ITiuter— Ben Du vis or New York Pippin, 
Haas, Golden Russet, Prico’6 Winter Sweet. 
Fall—Fame use, St. Lawrence, Saxton or Fall 
Stripe, Perry Russet. Summer —Dutchess of 
Oldenburg, Tc-tofSlcy, Red Astrachan. 
2. Delaware—Grown by Vino Valley Company ; lo¬ 
cution and soil sumo as No. X; exposure, weal and 
south; vine, three years old, trained on trellis, 
pruned according to Fuller's system; fruit picked 
2 !ili of Hcptotnrw; saccharine 22 per cent., or 96 by 
tlm “must scale." 
3. Do In ware - Grown by Nichols, Seeley A Co., Vine 
Viilley : soil, calcareous loam with gravely day sub¬ 
soil: exposuru southeast; vine, three years old, 
trained on trellis, nrw system of pruning; fruit 
picked 22(1 of September; saccharine, 21 per cent., or 
96 by the “ mu3t scale.” 
4. Delaware—Grown by James A. Green, at Rush, 
Monroe CO tuny, N. V; sob, ..ravel and sand; ex¬ 
posure, east, southeast; vine, three years old, trained 
on trellis, urin system of pruning; fruit picked 10th 
of September', saccharine 18 per cent., or85 by the 
" must scale.’* 
f>. Catawba—Grown by C 11. Perry, at Vine Valley: 
Bull, Kray oily loam, clay subsoil; exposure, south; 
vine, throe years old, trained on trellis; fruit picked 
bh id October; saccharine 20 per cent., or 90 by the 
"must sente." 
0. Catawba—Grown by N\ it. Hyatt, at Pultney, on 
Ketikn Luke.N. Y.; soil, calcareous sludo; exposure, 
southeast; vine, four years old, trained on vine trel¬ 
lis, arm system of pruning: iruit picked 6th of Octo¬ 
ber: saccharine 19.6 per cent., or 89 by the “roust 
Bcule." 
7. Isabella—Grown by Alex'. Rnssett, at Vine Val¬ 
ley; soil, shale mixed with clay; exposure, south; 
The "Mexican Everbearing" Strawberry in 
Northern Illinois.— At the recent meeting of lha 
North Illinois Horticultural Soolety, a resolu¬ 
tion recommending this fruit for general culti¬ 
vation was not adopted; but a resolution con¬ 
demning it was, we we Informed, “carried 
unanimously." 
Missouri Mammoth Blackberry.— J, W. Peak- 
man, Davenport, Iowa, says of this fruit:-"It 
1 b one of the poorest varieties of blackberries I 
ever saw. The fruit Is very small, uneven and a 
shy bearer.” D. B. Wmt, Lacou, Ill., Is reported 
n.v saying that he considers It worthless. Let our 
Western readers act accordingly In making 
orders. 
Apples in Wisconsin.— G. N. S., Berlin, Wls., 
asks:—"Can Wisconsin grow fruit?” and an¬ 
swers his own question In this wise" As near 
as 1 can ascertain we raised the past season, 
within a circuit of st.v miles, about (1,000 barrels 
of apples; within eight or ten utiles, 0,000 barrels 
of cranberries.” 
