U. S. VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. 
439 
Dr. Paquin: Do I say so many different germs, on different 
forms during the growth ? 
Dr. Clement: In another place you say you classify them. 
Dr. Paquin : I do not say I classify the germs. 
Dr. Clement: You cannot have a disease, producing virus of 
several different forms and call one bacillus and leave the rest un¬ 
classified. That is the basis upon which I made my criticism. 
Dr. Salmon: Just one. w T ord. Ido not know that Dr. Cle¬ 
ment has any means of knowing exactly what Dr. Paquin has 
seen except from his report. It may be Dr. Paquin is unfortun¬ 
ate in the way his report is written. Certainly from reading that 
report I can find nothing that would lead me to suppose that the 
doctor ever saw a micro-organism in a blood corpuscle such as Dr. 
Smith described. He does speak of its being found, but he does 
not give a description of it. He speaks of it being an oval germ. 
So from reading his report the only conclusion I could reach was 
that the germ which he studied was bacteria. I do not see how it 
would be possible for him to study this germ of ours in the red 
blood corpuscle. It is only by the peculiar appearance of this germ 
in the red blood corpuscle that we are able positively to distinguish 
it. After reading this report of Dr. Paquin’s I certainly reached 
very definite and positive conclusions in my own mind as to what 
he had seen. 1 do not see how it is possible for him to have 
studied the germ which exists only in the red corpuscles. I do not 
see how it is possible that he should have described the germ 
which is found also in the bile and other places where there are 
no red blood corpuscles. We only pretend to recognize the germ 
when we find it in the red corpuscles. 
Dr. Griffin : If I inoculate an animal with the germ and it gets 
a disease, would it be in the urine ? 
Dr. Salmon: It is a question of the recognition of the germ. 
Without a description of the germ, we do not know w T hat inves¬ 
tigators have been working at. 
Dr. Adair : If the germ that causes the disease is only in the 
red corpuscles and not in the urine, and you inoculate with the 
urine and produce Texas fever and the post-mortem shows the 
symptoms, do I understand the germ would be discovered and the 
disease diagnosed by the red blood corpuscle ? 
