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THE RURAL NEW-YORKER 
October 17, 
PUBLISHER’S DESK 
CHICK NOTES. 
How Long in Brooder? 
We liave the following notes signed by the pro¬ 
duce commission firm, Stevens & Simpson & Co., 
262 Washington Street, New York, for collection : 
$47.81, dated April 25, 1907, and due in 90 days. 
$25.25 dated July I. 1907, and due July 30, 1907. 
$25.25, dated July 1, 1907, and due July 16, 1907. 
After chicks are taken from incubator 
they will be put iu brooder iu east room, 
second story of farmhouse. IIow long 
should they be kept in these brooders in 
this room, and what arrangements should 
be made to care for them outside, Winter 
weat her ? 
The notes were issued to Allen B. Wells, 
Saratoga Springs, N. Y., for produce shipped and 
sold on commission. 
A subscriber sends us a letter he re¬ 
cently received from one J. T. Thomp¬ 
son, of San Francisco, Cal., who prides 
himself on being a promoter. He says 
promoting is one of the grandest profes¬ 
sions, and that it links him with Alex¬ 
ander the Great, Christopher Columbus, 
Robert Fulton, Morse, Bell, Gould, 
Harriman and a lot of other notable not 
to say distinguished gentlemen. All this, 
of course, is preliminary to the following 
paragraph: 
Only $8,000 are needed, aud with the be¬ 
ginning of the “wet season” very early in 
November, the first drop of water that 
strikes the gravel will wash down gold for 
the stockholders of the Swastika l’lacer 
Mines Company. Moral : Can you afford 
NOT to fill out a subscription for some of 
the stock? Subscribe right now. You will 
be fortunate if I am able to give you the 
full amount you subscribe f6r. Two days 
after this is mailed you, the same offer will 
be mailed my old clients, THEY KNOW, and 
will not hesitate. You should not. 
If there were as many drops of water 
in the November showers as there are 
in the stock that he wants you to buy, 
it ought to wash gold out of a gravel 
bank; but we would not expect much of 
the gold to get into the hands of the 
stockholders. The letter is one of the 
cleverest that we have yet seen on such 
subjects, but we hope none of our read¬ 
ers will be persuaded by it to part with 
any of their money. If they are, the 
“wet season” will find them out in the 
rain. 
I am no farmer, but I had to take The 
Ruhal New-Yokkeb in self defence. If 1 
bad taken it sooner I might have saved 
$200, for I invested Yhat. much in a get- 
rich-quick scheme that was advertised in 
some of the most respectable weeklies and 
monthlies, such as Success, Cosmopolitan 
and others. You deserve a lot of credit for 
the good you are doing by exposing the 
tricks of these slick rascals, and I certainly 
admire your courage, and wish you and 
your publication all the success that you 
deserve. “Dollars in Dirt” by Ostrander, 
was one of the headlines that took my eye, 
and after that my money. If you publish 
this letter, don’t print my name, nor give 
the town where I live, for I am considered 
here to be quite an intelligent citizen and 
business man, and do not wish my friends 
to know that I have been so foolish as to 
be taken in this way, but never again! 
Keep up the good work, and make these 
high-class magazines that lay the plans of 
these robbers before their unsuspecting 
readers ashamed of themselves. 
New Jersey. reader. 
We give the above not to laud our¬ 
selves, but to show how a man of con¬ 
siderable business experience may be 
and often is taken in by clever fake 
schemes. During the last year we have 
had reports from business men, doctors, 
lawyers, and even bankers who have been 
taken in one way or another by clever 
fakes. These men rarely come to us in 
an effort to get their money returned. 
No doubt they realize how useless such 
an effort would be on their part, or ours; 
but they rightly wish to make their ex¬ 
perience a warning to others. The 
amount of money that these frauds and 
fakers have swindled R. N.-Y. readers 
alone out of is something appalling. We 
are not able to estimate it definitely, hut 
from the reports coming to us daily, it 
must have amounted to several times 
our entire annual subscription receipts 
for the paper. We wish to do what we 
can to save this money in the future to 
the people who have earned it, and to 
whom it rightly belongs. 
As a result of your efforts the- 
Co. have returned the money which I sent 
them (less freight both ways). This is not 
exactly as they agree; however, I am glad 
to get as much back as I have. In the 
future I shall be very careful when ordering 
goods from advertisers to see their adver¬ 
tisement in The R. N.-Y. Thanking you 
again for the pains you have taken, and 
wishing you every success, I remain. 
New York. a. j. e. 
This was a case where the advertise¬ 
ment had not been in The R. N.-Y., 
but the subscriber had not been able to 
We have kept chicks in this manner 
for nearly three weeks, or until the 
brooders were needed for next hatch, 
after which they should be put in an 
outdoor brooder. In all of our experi¬ 
ence there is no outside brooder equal 
to the Cornell colony-house brooder, de¬ 
scribed in Bulletin 246. The great trou¬ 
ble we have had with indoor brooders is 
leg weakness, and if we were to use this 
method now we would be sure to have 
a good deal of muslin in the windows in 
place of glass. floyd q. white. 
Too Warm in Brooder. 
During the months of June and July 
(when it was very warm) I placed 160 day- 
old chicks (White Leghorn) in a White & 
Rice brooder house, single slant roof, built 
according to Bulletin 246. Cornell Experi¬ 
ment Station. I did not use any thermom¬ 
eter, hut had the gasoline flame up to the 
extreme of remaining blue (just avoiding, 
as directed, a white flame). The chicks, 
after second or third day after arrival, were 
“hopper fed,” i. e., commercial chick feed 
was continually before them, also smallest 
size grit and beef meal; good water sup¬ 
plied twice a day. Results were quite dis¬ 
astrous, great numbers of chicks were found 
each morning under the hover, trampled 
flat to death; one morning 20, and 10 more 
within an hour or iwo later. The chicks 
came about 200 miles, 170 were to arrive, 
and 10 dead at the unpacking. The floor 
of the brooder house, at its lowest, is 16 
inches above the ground. I became rather 
strongly prejudiced against the chicks hav¬ 
ing to go up so high a runway. The house 
stands on runners 12 inches high. I want 
to reduce this all I can. The eight-inch 
burner box will require nine-inch protec¬ 
tion. It has occurred to me to make the 
floor from front end of hover (which trans¬ 
versely is 40 inches, i. e., from back of house 
to its front) slant downward, or to make 
that part of floor (the front part four feet 
from end of hover to door and run down like 
steps)—so as in one way or another bring 
front of house (where the exit is) as even 
as possible with the ground. It has ap¬ 
peared objectionable to me to have this 
feature other than that it be as easy or 
simple as possible for the chicks to run in 
and out of the house. I would like errors 
I have made pointed out, advice given for 
better results and comment generally. I 
would like to know how many days after 
hatching and being placed in brooder 
house the chicks should be allowed to run 
outside into small temporary yard and how 
(particulars) to be kept up to that time 
inside of brooder house. Next time I will 
have self-hatched incubator chicks. Almost 
all of the dead ones, day after day, were 
found first thing in the morning under 
hover. reader. 
Ulster, Pa. 
In the first place the reason why so 
many of these chicks died in the brooder 
may be way back in the stock, or they 
may have been chilled during the ship¬ 
ment, and the fact that 10 were dead 
when received seems to indicate that 
there is the place to look for the trouble. 
But there has also been a mistake made 
in brooding in running the flame so hot 
during June and July weather. A ther¬ 
mometer should have been used, for 
while too much heat is not as bad as too 
little, you can kill them that way. I 
cannot understand how the floor of 
brooder can be 16 inches above the 
ground at its lowest point, and if this is 
correct I would dig a trench for the 
runners and lower the house until the 
door of the lamp-box would just clear 
the ground. Our first houses were built 
with two levels and incline floor, and 
we used them for two years before we 
developed the present shaped house. If 
we could not lower the house we would 
draw sods and fill up in front rather 
than go back to the two levels and in¬ 
cline floor, as the little chicks will not 
run up it at first, and you want a level 
floor for them until they are old enough 
and know enough to go back to hover 
and get warm whenever they get chilly. 
We use a form made of boards shaped 
like an inverted trough which we place 
at first close to the hover, and each day 
move it farther away until at the end of 
a week we remove it altogether and let 
the chicks have the whole floor. We let 
them outdoors just as soon as they know 
enough to “go in when it rains.” 
FLOYD Q. WHITE. 
get redress through the paper in which 
the advertisement appeared, and as a 
last resort reported it to us. We soon 
convinced the manufacturer that the 
farmer under the circumstances was en¬ 
titled to the return of his money, and 
he got it. The house is responsible 
and the goods seem usually to give 
satisfaction, but in this case the machine 
was not satisfactory and the manufac¬ 
turer was not inclined to live up to his 
guarantee. At first he could not see 
why The R. N.-Y. should “butt in,” as 
he expressed it, since we did not carry 
the advertisement; but we finally con¬ 
vinced him that The R. N.-Y. has the 
right and assumes the privilege of 
championing every just cause of a sub¬ 
scriber. j. j. D. 
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