FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY 
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Discussion. 
Prof. Rolfs: It seems that this has 
been pretty well discussed, and a while 
ago I thought it was going to be “cussed.” 
It seems to me there are some phases of 
this work that might be emphasized a 
little more. One is, the question of plant¬ 
ing flatwoods. If you are an experienced 
orange grower and have made successful 
groves, I have nothing to say to you about 
it. To the man who is beginning, I 
say “Don’t.” Let the man who knows 
how do the work. 
It is the same with the drained muck 
lands. If you have made a grove and 
know just what you ought to do with 
it, all right; but that information does not 
work very well, second-hand. If you 
were in my place", you would know that 
over 90 per cent of the trouble that is 
referred to the “trouble man” comes from 
the flatwoods, or flatwoods conditions. 
Dynamiting is all right, but after all, 
when you want to make a nice grove 
without very much trouble, take the good, 
rolling, high pine land and you will come 
about as near having soil that is “fool 
proof” as any you can get hold of. 
The hammock land, of course, is a very 
fine thing and is where the orange indus¬ 
try got its start; we have nothing to say 
about the hammock; if you can make a 
start on the hammock, do it. You will 
get a good grove, even if you do not know 
everything about citrus production. 
I believe that is all I have to say. I 
am glad to have a chance to say some¬ 
thing about trying to make a flatwoods 
grove. 
Mr. Skinner: I would like to know if 
anybody here has had any special experi¬ 
ence or observation with the cultivation of 
the grapefruit stock. The grapefruit 
stock in the Fort Myers country is the 
only stock that they will have, and for a 
very good reason; but I would like tq 
know if anybody knows anything about 
the cultivation of grapefruit stock, as to 
plowing, light cultivation and cultivation 
on flatwoods soils, light, sandy soils and 
hammock soils. 
Mr. Hollingsworth: My life has been 
made up of experience, and especially 
with this grapefruit root. In my groves 
I have several stocks. The grapefruit 
stock is not the proper stock for all soils. 
It is a superb grower. The grapefruit 
seedling becomes one of the most mag¬ 
nificent trees of the citrus family; but 
as a stock for dry, sandy soils, it does 
not give the satisfaction that other 
stocks do. The grapefruit stock is not 
what we would like to have it. It 
seems to be a grower in our neighbor¬ 
hood, and under (favorable conditions, 
does well. 
I will further say on the stock ques¬ 
tion : We prefer the lemon stock in our 
high section for various reasons. 
While I am on the floor, I might men¬ 
tion the matter of shallow plowing. I 
do not see any sense in that whatever. 
Trees are different. I believe in plowing 
deeply, and very deeply. 
