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but the whole thing was thrown over at the last meeting of 
the Council. Mr. Ernes knocked the whole thing on the 
head. 
Mr. Ellies said he was compelled to do so^ because the 
committee would not take any steps in the matter. 
Mr. Fleming thought Mr. Ernes was entirely wrong when 
he imputed to members of the Council any ill-will towards 
him. When he first brought his suggestions before them 
they w^ere very earnestly received, and the Council was 
anxious to forward them in every way. Nearly everything 
proposed by Mr. Ernes that night, had been discussed and 
passed by the Special Committee which Avas appointed. 
Mr. El mes acknowledged that at first his suggestions Avere 
received Avith great favour by the Council, and the Com¬ 
mittee Avhich Avas appointed Avent through its Avork Avell. 
There Avas one Council meeting at which its suggestions 
Avere passed, but after that there Avas a standstill, and 
nothing further Avas done. Even if his propositions Avere 
passed, he did not intend them to come into operation till 
1871. 
Mr. Wilkinson said the only delay Avas caused by the 
necessity of suspending the notice of proposed alterations in 
the bye-laAvs. 
Professor Spooner said, Avhoever had any proposition to 
make, must determine Avhat bye-laAv it Avas proposed to alter, 
and suspend it for three months. 
Mr. Morgan contended that notice of intention ” had 
been given in accordance Avith the Charter. 
The President said, as the meeting Avas rather larger than 
usual, he hoped they Avould not adjourn Avithout arriving at 
some definite conclusion. He should be glad if Professor 
Spooner or Professor Simonds Avould kindly state their vieAvs 
on the question of an examination being held once a year, as 
Avell as on the question of practical examinations. 
Professor Spooner thought the movement altogether pre¬ 
mature. They should first get fully carried out their vieAvs 
Avith regard to preliminary education, and should endeavour 
to obtain the privilege of calling themselves veterinary sur¬ 
geons to the exclusion of others, and then Avould be the time 
to move in this matter. 
Mr. Hunt asked if it Avas Professor Spooner’s opinion that 
the College should go on turning out young men who Avere 
perfectly incompetent. 
Professor Spooner Avished to knoAv if Mr. Hunt thought it 
Avas possible for the schools to impart the practical informa¬ 
tion Avhich he considered necessary. 
