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VETERINARY JURISPRUDENCE. 
At Manchester?—Yes. 
Do you recollect Mr. Hewitt coming to you upon the 7th April and 
asking vou to examine a chestnut horse for him ?—Yes. 
Was the horse at Mr. Buxton’s ?—Yes. 
Did you go down there at two o’clock ?—Half-past two. 
And then did Mr. Hewitt and Mr. Thompson come down the yard?— 
I saw Mr. Hewitt first, and then Mr. Thompson afterwards. 
Did Mr. Thompson say anything about your examining the horse ?—He 
refused me. 
What did he say?—He said, “That man shan’t examine the horse.” 
- lie said that to Mr. Hewitt?—Yes. 
What did Mr. Hewitt say ?—Mr. Hewitt said, “This is my veterinary 
surgeon. It is a hard case if you won’t allow him to examine the horse.” 
Did you see the horse at all on that day?—Y r es; I was permitted to 
see him in the box, and when he was brought out for sale. 
As far as you could judge, from your examination of the horse in the 
box, could you discover any symptoms % of lameness or of navicular 
disease ?—No. 
Did you see him afterwards run out ?—Yes ; when he was brought out 
for sale, I saw him run both slowly and cjuickly. 
That was to show him to the intended purchaser ?—Yes. 
As far as you could see did he run sound ?—He ran sound. 
Now, I believe navicular disease may arise from various causes, but if 
of long standing, what effect has it on the foot ?—Y r ou have a contracted, 
high foot, and no doubt (if the disease be long-existing) it will be smaller 
than its neighbour. 
From want of the natural supply ?—From want of the natural expansion 
and contraction of the foot, and from inflammatory action. 
Now supposing such a disease had been set up from any external causes 
or from natural causes; supposing it had commenced in November, 
1862, and continued up to the present time, would you expect to find 
an appearance of that in the foot ?—Decidedly so. 
Visibly ?—No doubt of it. 
Both as to form and structure ?—In the first place you would have 
decided lameness; in the second place, having had chronic disease for 
such a length of time, the horse when at repose in the stable would point 
the foot, and would hang the limb in a relaxed position to relieve the weight 
from the navicular joint. 
I think you were present at the conversation about the £20, on April 
7th ?—Yes. 
Will you, as far as you recollect, tell me how that commenced, or 
what occurred ?—Mr. Hewitt, after he had said it was a hard case that 
Mr. Thompson would not allow his veterinary surgeon to examine the 
horse, said, “ The horse is very much out of condition (which he was, he 
had had his sides rubbed, and was disfigured from mustard poultices to 
his breast), and to prevent any further proceedings, and to settle all 
disputes, without prejudice to the case, I will give you £20.” 
Was that before the sale ?—Yes. 
Were you at any conversation at all between them after the sale ?—No. 
Cross-examined by Mr. Macaulay , Q.C .:—You say that if this horse has 
navicular disease, which dates as early as November, 1862, he ought to 
point the foot in the stable ?—Yes. 
Did not he do so at the sale ?—No. 
I wish to get your opinion ; supposing the horse, at the time of the 
sale, had navicular disease, which had arisen, say within nine months ?— 
That would be a professional speculation : you must go by the facts. 
