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Farm Water Problems 
Piping Water Into Kitchen 
I have a well 15 feet from the house; 
would like to pipe water in kitchen, would 
be about eight feet of piping. The well 
is 15 or l(i feet under ground, eight: feet 
in cellar and up through the floor. There 
would be two elbows. Could it be done so 
as to work all right? If so. what size 
pipe would be best, also what kind of 
pump would I need? F. H. c. 
Clinton, N. Y. 
As I understand the case, the constant 
level of the water in the well is about 
eight feet below the ground surface in 
your cellar bottom, making the total 
vertical lift between the bucket of the 
pump, if a cistern type of pump is used, 
and the water surface, about IS feet, 
while between the well and the cellar 
there will be a horizontal run of about 
1G feet. 
If this is right an ordinary cistern pipe 
of good strong construction will deliver 
water at the sink level, but if water is 
desired upstairs a force pump should be 
used—one of the kitchen type. If a care¬ 
ful measurement shows the vertical dis¬ 
tance from the water surface in the well 
to the sink level to be much in excess of 
the distance mentioned it would perhaps 
be better to use a well pump with a long 
set length, placing the cylinder at the 
level of the cellar floor, or just above the 
elbow where the horizontal pipe enters. 
This would reduce the suction lift con¬ 
siderably and help in getting water. 
If a cistern pump is used, the pipe will 
be kept full of water and the lower valve 
of the pump relieved somewhat by the 
use of a check valve at the foot of the 
pipe in the well. However, if the pump 
or pipe is subject to freezing the foot 
valve should not be used, but instead the 
pipe given a grade back to the well, so 
that entire pump and line may be drained 
by raising the pump handle to the highest 
position and tripping both of the valves. 
The elbows mentioned will not inter¬ 
fere seriously where the flow of water is 
so slow, their effect being more noticeable 
in a line where the water flows with a 
higher velocity. The proper size pipe to 
use will be indicated by the size of the 
connection on the pump. Your installa¬ 
tion will not be complete without a sink 
connected with a drain. Aside from the 
water used for drinking purposes, every 
pailful carried in has to be carried out 
again, so that providing an inside pump 
only makes half the saving in labor that 
is possible; a drain is needed to carry the 
waste water away. r. ii. s. 
Pumping from Driven Well 
I have a driven well in cellar about 15 
ft. below bottom, with pump in kitchen. 
Is it practical to put a centrifugal pump 
in cellar to pump in tank above kitchen 
by placing a check valve below kitchen 
pump and one above centrifugal pump? 
Strykersville, N. Y. e. s. k. 
It is probable that a rotary pump is 
meant instead of a certifugal, and this, as 
well as the centrifugal, would not be adapt¬ 
ed to this use. The supply of water from 
a driven well is usually limited, while a 
rotary pump has a large capacity. Fur¬ 
thermore, the rotary pump is better adapt¬ 
ed to the pumping of such liquids as oils, 
where rust does not affect it, and where 
the cams and inside of the casing are 
kept lubricated. The cams arc ground 
into the casing, and rust or wear soon 
destroys their lit if the conditions under 
which the pump is used permit either. 
A small reciprocating pump will give 
you the best satisfaction, and if wished, 
a kitchen force pump with a three-way 
cock can be placed where your pump now 
is in the kitchen, which on different posi¬ 
tions of the valve will permit pumping 
from the well into the kitchen sink, per¬ 
mit pumping from the well to the attic 
tank, or permit water from the attic tank 
to discharge by gravity from the spout of 
the pump. 
If a power outfit was desired, corre¬ 
spondence with the pump advertisers in 
the reliable farm papers will help you in 
getting an outfit suited to your needs. 
R. II. S. 
Loosening Rusty Valve 
I have a valve in my water works; 
throuo-h neglect it was only used during 
the Summer and not turned at times. It 
has become set so I cannot turn it. Can 
you tell me of any way of getting it in 
working order without digging it up? It 
is in an almost inaccessible place. 
Sabula, Iowa. b. d. 
As I understand the situation the valve 
is situated underground and turned by a 
handle or rod extending up through a box. 
The chief difficulty in turning the valve is 
" >bably the fact that this rod is so lim¬ 
ber that it gives or twists before force 
enough can be exerted to start the valve. 
Hi? down and get hold of the rod with 
a pipe wrench as near the valve as pos¬ 
sible, and carefully exert as much strength 
on it as you think the valve will stand. 
While doing this tap on the rod with a 
hammer; this tapping will sometimes 
start a valve or nut that cannot be stirred 
otherwise. Work patiently and avoid 
pulling or striking hard enough to break 
the valve. 
If the valve can be reached with kero¬ 
sene keep it soaked for two or three days 
before attempting to turn it, or if heat can 
be applied to it in any way this will be 
an aid in loosening it. If badly corroded 
it is doubtful if you can start it without 
taking it out, but 1 careful trial of the 
above may do the trick. K. s. H. 
Wood Water Piping 
Is wood piping desirable for carrying 
water from spring to house, a distance of 
about 1.400 ft., with a fair amount of 
fall? In one place it will come over a 
steep bank and under road. Could one 
make the necessary short bends, and lmw 
deep should it be laid? Would you let 
the wood come into the cellar of the 
house, and plumb on to it from there? 
Triangle, N. Y. a. k. l. 
Bends of almost any degree can bo ob¬ 
tained for use with wood piping, such 
as 1 --V-x degree bends, 45 degree and 
so on. so there would probably lx* no dif¬ 
ficulty in passing over the bank which you 
describe. I Til ess you have a considerable 
fall it would probably be best to use 
either the 1 Vj-inch or 1 ',4-inch size of 
pipe, which come at the same price, about 
12c per ft. The one-inch size, which sells 
October 25, 1919 
for around nine cents per foot, might 
possibly be too small to furnish a suf¬ 
ficient water supply in so long a line un¬ 
less the head were considerable. The 
various bends and fittings required will 
cost approximately $1.50 each. 
Whether or not the wood pipe extended 
through the cellar wall would probably 
make very little difference, the method 
could be used that would be the most 
convenient. If the water is allowed to 
flow constantly, so that it does not stand 
in the pipe, a depth of around 2y, ft. 
would, no doubt prove satisfactory.“ but 
if the water is to be shut off at the lower 
end of the line so that it does not stand in 
the pipe, the line should be laid below 
frost. 
Wood pipe is being highly recommended 
by experiment stations and satisfied users. 
IN ith the present high prices of galvanized 
pipe there is quite a saving in first cost, 
where conditions are satisfactory for its 
use. This style of piping has been in use 
for a long time, and cases are on record 
where it has been down for 50 years. To 
secure this extended term of service it 
must be kept full of water, so as to re¬ 
main saturated. It is a well-known fact 
that wood wet to the point of saturation, 
so as to exclude the air, will not decay. 
Another feature peculiar to wood pipe is 
the fact that the longer it is down the 
greater quantity of water it, will carry. 
The inside becomes very smooth and offers 
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