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in this question; most farmers could not tell one grass from 
another. Red clover was, on the whole, the best fodder we 
had; it gave a large yield; rooted deep, thus loosening the 
soil; does not exhaust the strength of the land so much as 
timothy; in dry seasons it kills out. Red top is best for low 
lands, but is not good for hay or dry feed. June and blue 
grass are one and the same thing; it appeared different on 
different soils. A variety of seeds should be sown upon the 
the same land; we could then tell which was the best adapted 
to any particular soil or locality. 
C. C. Buell could not say much about grasses. Wild hay 
is said to be good for dairy use by some; he did not think so. 
Wm. Patten did not exactly agree as to blue grass and 
June grass being the same thing. Dutch clover was good for 
dairy use; would like to see it in more general use. Orchard 
grass was also good, and produced largely, and was hardy 
and well adapted to our soils. 
Prof. Hall thought that June and blue grass was one and 
the same thing. For pasturage we must use a variety of 
seeds, so as to have fresh feed at all seasons of the year. 
Judge Wilcox had experimented with grass seed. . Bought 
one bushel each of orchard, red top, and timothy; mixed and 
sowed in nearly equal parts. The next year he had a mag¬ 
nificent crop of weeds / had to plow it up, and of course lost 
his seed and labor. Hungarian was good for dairy use; 
cows would eat it in preference to timothy, or any other hay. 
Last year he failed entirely with Hungarian; worms cut it 
down. Clover and timothy are the best for hay of anything 
he could find; must not pasture meadows too close, it is bet¬ 
ter not at all. 
Prof. Hall inquired if anyone had cut timothy before head¬ 
ing out, and with what results. He had once cut two crops 
in one year; found it hard to cure. 
Mr. Milsom, of Clay county, wanted to know how much 
hay per acre was considered a fair crop; raised a large 
amount of red top in his county, more for seed than for hay. 
