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air. Would always raise clover; could not run a dairy 
without it. The bunches, when dry, should not weigh over 
fifty or seventy-five pounds. 
H. W. Mead: How is orchard grass for hay ? Oris 
it only adapted for pasture ? 
Boies: Had tried it for hay, but could not succeed in 
getting a good stand; it easily killed out. 
Mead: Had also experienced the same difficulty. 
M. H. Thompson inquired if anyone had experimented 
with Alfalfa ? 
Mr. Wattles, of McHenry, had found it good for low 
land, but not well adapted for high rolling lands. 
Mead: Had also tried Alfalfa, but did not succeed; 
land might not have been right. 
Boies: Had also tried Alsac, but with no success. 
Mr. Perry said it must be sown on dry land; had seen 
it at Champaign; it was not a success, but he thought that 
on dry land it would do better. 
Wm. Frazier: Had also tried Alsac, but with no 
success. 
Boies said he did not sow white clover; it was natural 
to our soils and would creep into any meadow if it had “a 
chance. 
Topic No. 9, “ Is it profitable to keep more cows than 
the farm will sustain,” was now called for. 
I. Boies said he had always argued to keep more cows; 
he looked at it a little differently now; now he would say 
keep more cows on less land. E. W. Stewart of Cata- 
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