5<66 THE MALAKAND AND BUNERWAL EXPEDITIONS. 
rosistance met with may be gauged by the fact that our casualties 
among the infantry amounted to only 5 wounded. I think therefore 
that quite the most important part played by the Artillery in all these 
frontier campaigns is that nearly all positions were cleared beforehand 
by the guns. 
Captain C. N. B. BALLARD, R.F.A.:—I really think Mr. Delaforce 
has said everything there was to say, and I cannot think of anything 
further to say to you, gentlemen. 
Major G. N. MAYNE, King’s Own Scottish Borderers :—Colonel Cor¬ 
bett, Officers and gentlemen, Major Forde just now made a remark as to 
the great moral effect caused by the Artillery in helping the infantry 
to attack these positions. So far as we were concerned at Tirah, the 
Battery that we saw the most of was No. 5 Mountain Battery, under 
the command of Captain, now Major, Money, and I will say one thing 
that, although it seems to be the general impression that Mountain 
Artillery are not strong enough as regards their shell fire, at the same 
time I may tell you we received very considerable help from that 
Battery, No. 5, on several occasions, and especially in retirements from 
positions. I do not know very much about the technical part of the 
Artillery, and so I do not think I can add anything more to the dis¬ 
cussion, except to say that just as we were concentrating at Shinwari, 
the starting point of the Tirah Expedition, we met a Field Battery 
returning to India.1 It must be evident to all who have heard Lieut. 
Delaforce’s very interesting lecture that this Field Battery might have 
been very usefully employed during the two attacks on the Dargai 
Heights, and would certainly have caused considerable loss to the 
enemy and greatly aided our troops in carrying that extremely diffi¬ 
cult position. 
The CHAIRMAN : — I think gentlemen, we have got to thank the 
lecturer very much for the interesting lecture that we have heard. I 
do not wish to say much myself, but there are just one or two points 
which have been mentioned, on which I might say something. The 
first is as regards what we have heard about the effect of Artillery fire 
in these mountainous places. No doubt the Artillery is acting under 
very great disadvantages ; you are firing up, as we were told, between 
15 and 17 degrees, and the enemy you are firing at are on a narrow 
ridge ; so that, if your shell does not exactly hit the right place, it does 
not hurt them a bit; if it is a little bit too low it cannot reach right 
up, for the slopes are too steep, so it simply hits the mountain and 
breaks ; and, if it is a little too high, it goes bang over and cannot hurt 
anybody. But the most important thing is that it keeps the enemy 
from the crest of the hill, and therefore they cannot fire at the infantry 
storming the place ; and I think that is the important thing as regards 
the Artillery in country of that sort. Whether they kill many or few, 
is a comparatively small matter, though, of course, the more they kill 
the better; but the great thing is that it keeps the enemy away, so 
that they cannot lean over and shoot down at the infantry as they are 
climbing up the slopes, and it therefore enables the infantry to get 
very near to the top before the enmy can fire at them. 
There is only one other point I should like to mention. Major 
