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FOREST AND STREAM 
[Sept. 15, 1906. 
"There were two reasons for my not fitting out; one 
is of no interest to any one but myself, the other was 
that I had no reasonable certainty of getting a fair 
number of class races, and I do not care to fit out such 
a boat for handicap racing. 
“You may or may not remember, sir, that in 1903 
several suggestions appeared in the Yachting World as 
to the desirability of putting the big boats together upon 
the Y. R. A. scale of time allowances, and acting upon 
these suggestions, I proposed, through the medium of 
the press, to the then owners of Kariad and Sybarita to 
meet them with Cicely on every occasion that the clubs 
-would give as a race on that scale, but nothing came of 
my challenge. 
“I did certainly get some class racing in the Baltic 
in 1902, and started there in five matches and took five 
firsts in the finest class of schooners that ever raced 
together, and in 1903 she won three firsts out of five 
starts. In one match I made a mistake and went the 
wrong course, and another was a drifting match 7% 
hours to do 21 miles). 
“The Germans, however, discovered, for reasons best 
known to themselves, that Cicely was not large enough 
by a quarter of a unit to race against Meteor and Rain¬ 
bow and degraded her to the class in which Clara now 
sails over the course alone, but this did not appeal to 
me from a sportsmanlike point of view, and I laid 
Cicely up; but before doing so I wrote to the two gentle¬ 
men who represented Germany this year at the inter¬ 
national conference offering to alter Cicely so as to in¬ 
crease her rating by a quarter of a unit, which I could 
easily do with a little more hoist, and both replies are 
in my posession asking me not to do so. 
“Now, as to the future, subject to her being unsold, I 
am prepared to fit out Cicely next season if any Ger¬ 
man or English owners of any schooner or schooners 
of the same class now owned by them and over seventy- 
nine feet linear rating, will meet me in five or ten 
matches for a stake of £1,000 each yacht in each match 
for five matches, or £500 for ten matches, on 50-mile 
courses, in open or inclosed waters, each match to be 
finished in less than seven hours or be resailed; the 
matches to be sailed under the new Y. R. A. rules and 
scale of time allowance, and I am prepared to deposit 
the sum of £1,000 in the hands of any first class bankers, 
to be forfeited if for any reason I cannot start, provided 
other owners will do the same. 
“The dates of the matches could easily be made so as 
not to clash with other fixtures or to fit in with them. 
“This offer is subject to acceptance within three months 
from this date, and I reserve to myself the right to make 
any such alterations to the boat as I may be advised, 
which it is also open to other owners to do. 
“Yours, etc., 
“Cecil Quentin,” 
“The Abbey House, Chertsey, Aug. 6.” 
Fall Regatta Indian Harbor Y. C. 
September 1. 
In a fluky breeze the fall regatta of the Indian Harbor 
Y. C. took place on Saturday. The big schooners had 
a bad start. The seventies raced as usual, and Effort 
joined them, having no competitor, and won. The' times 
follow: 
Schooners—90ft. Class—Start, 12:10—Course, 2014 Miles. 
Finish. Elapsed. 
Queen, J. R. Maxwell.3 52 52 3 42 52 
Elmina, F. F. Brewster.Disabled. 
Sloops—82ft. Class—Start, 12:15—Course, 20% Miles. 
Yankee, H. L. Maxwell.3 41 15 3 26 15 
Rainbow, C. Vanderbilt .3 43 22 3 28 22 
Corrected time—Yankee, 3.26.08. Yankee wins by 2m. 
14s. 
Special Class—Start, 12:15—Course, 20% Miles. 
Effort, F. M. Smith.3 47 30 3 32 30 
Yankee, H. L. Maxwell .3 41 15 3 26 15 
Rainbow, C. Vanderbilt.3 43 22 3 28 22 
Corrected time—Effort, 3.18.36; Yankee, 3.26.08. Effort 
wills by 7m. 32s. 
N. Y. Y. C. 30-footers—Start, 12:30—Course, 15 Miles. 
Banzai, C. D. Mallory .3 21 50 3 20 21 
Neola, G. M. Pynchon .3 51 28 3 21 28 
Phryne, C. W. Wetmore. 3 51 55 3 21 55 
Cara Mia, S. Wainwright .4 02 56 3 32 56 
Dahinda. W. B. Duncan, Jr.3 52 10 3 22 10 
Melody, W. J. Matheson .4 02 25 3 32 25 
Banzai wins by lm. 7s. 
Sloops, 27ft. Class—Start, 12:30—Course, 15 Miles. 
Regina, F. G. Stewart .3 59 51 3 24 51 
Sue, E. F. Luckenback .4 00 03 3 25 03 
Regina wins by 12s. 
Handicap Class— First Division—Start, 12:45—Course, 10 
Miles. 
Marguerite W. F. Clark .3 24 59 2 39 59 
Rube, G. P. Granbery .Disqualified 
Thelema, A. E. Black.3 39 40 2 54 40 
Corrected time—Marguerite, 2.38.23; Thelema, 2.42.40. 
Marguerite wins by 4m. 17s. 
Handicap Class—Second Division—Start, 12:45—Course, 
10 Miles. 
Montauk, W. Sheldon .3 36 11 2 51 11 
Huntress, L. H. Dyer .3 39 12 2 54 12 
Monsoon, B. R. Stoddard .3 43 39 2 58 30 
Answer, D. B. Abbott .3 51 53 3 06 53 
Robin Hood, G. E. Gartland.3 57 55 3 12 55 
Scamp, W. Murdock .Did not finish. 
Corrected times—Montauk, 2.38.23; Huntress, 2.51.49; 
Monsoon, 2.53.54; Answer, 2.59.45; Robin Hood, 3.08.57. 
Montauk wins by 13m. 26s. 
Raceabouts—Start, 12:40—Course, 10 Miles. 
Rascal III., S. C. Hopkins .3 27 19 2 47 19 
Circe, A. D. Prince.3 33 29 2 53 29 
Busy Bee, R. T. Wainwright .3 38 05 2 58 05 
Rascal III. wins by 6m. 10s. 
Sloops, 22ft. Class—Start, 12:50—Course, 10 Miles. 
Paumonak, F. P. Carrier .3 52 10 3 02 10 
Mopsa, F. C. and W. S. Sullivan.3 54 24 3 04 24 
Corrected time—Paumonak, 3.00.13. Paumonak wins by 
4m, 11s. 
Sloops, 18ft. Class—Start, 12:50—Course, 10 Miles. 
Ace, R. H. Bavier .3 58 10 3 08 10 
Dede, W. E. Douglas .4 24 26 3 34 26 
Corrected time—Dede, 3.25.59. Ace wins by 17m. 49s. 
Indian Harbor Catboats—Start, 12:55—Course 10 Miles. 
Osseo, A. G. Cooper .4 34 52 3 39 52 
Wacouta M. D. Truesdale.4 49 10 3 44 10 
Ace, A. N. Gilmour .4 46 42 3 51 42 
Nancy, N. W. Paret.4 38 43 3 43 43 
Joe, C. T. Willis .4 29 20 3 34 20 
Joe wins by 5m. 32s. 
Riverside Catboats—Start, 12:55—Course, 10 Miles. 
Getty, J. M. Williams .4 40 14 3 45 14 
Nilo, C. W. Starr .4 52 52 3 57 52 
Daomi, A. S. Starr .4 43 32 • 3 48 32 
Getty wins by 3m. 18s. 
Sloops—Class S—Start, 12:45—Course, 5% Miles. 
Joke, C. Converse ., .-2 40 01 1 55 01 
The winners were: Elmina, Rainbow, Effort, Alera, 
Rube, Monsoon, Pretty Quick, Mopsa, Ace and Joke. 
Fall Regatta Larchmont Y. C. 
September 3. 
On Labor Day the fall regatta of the Larchmont Y. C. 
was sailed on the Sound in a cracking breeze of wind. 
The schooner yacht Queen, owned by J. Roger Maxwell, 
met with a peculiar accident in the loss of her center- 
board. Something which has not been known in a long 
time in such large yachts. Queen is in Bristol having 
a new' board fitted. The times were as follow: 
Schooners—Class B—Start, 11:55—Course, 30% Miles. 
Finish. Elapsed. 
Elmina, F. F. Brewster .2 42 13 2 47 13 
Queen, J. R. Maxwell.Withdrew. 
Sloops—70ft. Class—Start, 12:00-Course, 30% Miles. 
Rainbow, C. Vanderbilt .2 58 09 2 58 09 
Yankee, Harry Maxwell .Did not start. 
Sloops—Class J—Start, 12:05—Course, 30% Miles. 
Effort, F. M. Smith.3 26 30 3 21 30 
Neola, E. D. King.3 29 04 3 24 04 
N. Y. Y. C. 30ft. Class—Start, 12:15—Course, 15% Miles. 
Phryne, C. W. Wetmore .2 23 30 2 08 30 
Cara Mia, S. Wainwright .2 22 02 2 07 02 
Atair, J. E. and G. C. Meyer.2 26 24 2 11 24 
Alera, J. H. Alker .,.2 22 01 2 07 01 
Handicap Class—First Division—Start, 12:20—Course, 11 
Miles. 
Rube, G. P. Granbery .2 13 17 1 53 17 
Thelema, A. E. Black .2 33 47 1 53 17 
Handicap Class—Second Division—Start, 12:20—Course, 11 
Miles. 
Monsoon, B. R. Stoddard .2 47 49 2 27 49 
Raceabout Class—Start, 12:25—Course, 11 Miles. 
Pretty Quick, A. B. Alley.2 11 26 1 46 26 
Tartan, A. D. Pirie .2 12 01 1 47 01 
Circe, A. D. Prince . 2 j.8 25 1 53 25 
Busy Bee II., R. T. Wainwright.2 23 47 1 58 47 
Sloops, Mixed Class—Start, 12:35—Course, 11 Miles. 
Mopsa, F. C. Sullivan .2 35 46 2 05 46 
Firefly, Guy Standing .2 42 57 2 07 57 
Bug 10, George A. Corry.Did not finish. 
Corrected time—Mopsa, 2.00.02. 
Sloops, Class R—Start, 12:40—Course, 11 Miles. 
Ace, R. N. Bavier .3 00 33 2 20 33 
New York Y. C. 
Autumn Cup—Glen Cove—Sept. 6. 
On Thursday off Glen Cove took place races under 
the auspices of the New York Y. C. for the Autumn 
cups for sloops. Rainbow defeated Yankee, Effort and 
Neola, and, in the 30ft. class, Dahinda. The times follow: 
Sloops—70ft. Class—Start, 12:25— Course, 2i% Miles. 
,, . , _ Finish. Elapsed. 
Rainbow, C. Vanderbilt.3 27 03 3 00 03 
Yankee, Harry L. Maxwell.3 28 12 3 03 12 
Corrected time—Rainbow, 2.58.05; Yankee, 2.59.08. 
Sloops—60ft. Class—Start, 12:30—Course, 21% Miles. 
Effort, F. M. Smith.3 39 27 3 07 33 
Neola, E. D. King.3 32 03 3 13 06 
*Gardenia, A. H. Morris.4 09 38 3 34 07 
Corrected time—Effort, 3.00.42; Gardenia, 3.01.26; Neola 
3.07.55. 
New York Y. C. 30ft. Class—Start, 12:40—Course, 14% 
Miles. 
Dahinda, W. Butler Duncan, Jr.3 22 31 
Neola II., George M. Pynchon.3 32 03 
Cara Mia, S. Wainwright .3 25 59 
Banzai, Clifford Mallory .3 26 06 
Nautilus, Hanan Brothers.3 23 00 
Atair, J. E. and G. C. Meyer.3 22 37 
Phryne, C. W. Wetmore.3 22 46 
Altair, J. E. and G. C. Meyer.3 22 37 
Adelaide, Adee Brothers.3 28 03 
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The winners were: 
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Atlantic Y. C. 
Labor Day Regatta-Sept. 3. 
The race given by the Atlantic Y. C. on Monday was 
postponed from morning to afternoon on account of bad 
weather. At 3 o’clock there was a good wholesail breeze. 
The Q class spoiled their start by getting over too soon, 
not all recrossing. The winner in P class was Jig Step; 
Q class, Spider, and Boots in the dory class. The times 
follow: 
Sloops and Yawls—Class P—Start, 3:05—Course. 9.6 
Nautical Miles. 
Finish. Elapsed. 
Jig Step, F. J. Havens.4 51 34 1 46 34 
Crescent, J. B. O’Donohue .4 54 32 1 49 32 
Sakana, Haviland Bros.4 58 19 1 53 19 
Corrected time of Sakana, 1.49.58. Jig Step wins from 
Crescent by 2m. 38s. 
Sloops—Class Q—Start 3:10—Course, 9.6 Nautical Miles. 
Spider, H. Chubb .5 06 21 1 56 21 
Joy, William H. Childs.5 10 47 2 00 47 
Mary, M. Grundner .Did not Finish. 
Saetta, G. H. Church .Disqualified. 
Soya, W. A. Barstow .Disqualified. 
Spider wins from Joy by 4m. 26s. 
Dories—Start, 3:30—Course, 4.8 Nautical Miles. 
Boots, W. L. Sweet, Jr.5 11 40 1 31 40 
Dido, L. S. Tiemann.5 12 06 1 32 06 
Boots wins from Dido by 26s. 
Seawanhaka Corinthian Y. C. 
15-footers, Sept. 1—Women’s Race. 
The ladies of Oyster Bay sailed a race in the Sea- 
wanhaka Y. C.’s 15ft. sloops on Saturday, and Miss May 
Young, in Chipmunk, won. The race was sailed over a 
9-mile course in 2 hours’ elapsed time. Mrs. Clinton 
McKenzie, sailing C. W. Wetmore’s Sabrina, was sec¬ 
ond, 2m. 45s. behind, and the other boats were all close 
up. Each boat was steered by a woman and had a 
woman handling the sheets, but each was permitted to 
carry a man to advise them. The summary of the race 
follows: 
Finish. Elapsed. 
Chipmunk, Miss May Young.5 39 45 1 59 45 
Sabrina, Mrs. Clinton McKenzie.5 42 30 2 02 30 
Marjorie, Mrs. H. W. Warner.5 45 55 2 05 55 
Wee Wean Mrs. E. W. Durnham.5 46 30 2 06 30 
Imp, Miss Agnes Landon.5 46 32 2 06 32 
Grilse, Miss Christine Roosevelt.5 48 20 2 08 20 
Fly, Miss Margaret Roosevelt.5 51 20 2 11 20 
A START IN THE TRIAL RACES AT MARBLEHEAD. 
Photo by W. Jackson. 
