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or horn before guard. With this style of stock, the gun 
is grasped just in front of the trigger guard by the 
thumb and forefinger of the left hand, the palm of the 
left hand and the remaining fingers being firmly pressed 
against the guard. This style of holding the gun is not 
to be commended, but it must be admitted that many 
fine shots are to be found who never hold their gun 
differently. 
The rational gun stock was introduced by the author 
some time ago, and it embodies qualities long sought 
in pistol-grip guns, and the undeniable advantage of the 
straight stock. 
In this stock, as will be seen from the illustration, 
there is more than the usual bend at the bump or heel, 
and that the comb is not straight, but arched slightly; 
and as the cheek touches the stock about midway be¬ 
tween the heel and the thumb, it is there, and there only, 
that the stock need be straight. 
With the usual English gun stock, put up in the usual 
manner, it will be found that about one-quarter of the 
butt projects above, and has no bearing against the 
shoulder. This leaves the sharp narrow toe to steady the 
gun and to take the recoil. With the rational stock, the 
face of the shooter will be resting upon the stock when 
the bump or heel has reached a level of the shoulder, 
and the whole of the butt will find a bearing in the 
hollow of the shooter’s shoulder. The bend of the gun 
will, with the rational stock, be about 2%in. at heel, 
iy 2 in. at comb and U/iin. midway between heel and 
comb. 
The use for and necessity of cast-off will at once become 
apparent on an examination of the next illustration, 
showing a gun so cast over that it may be aligned from 
the right shoulder with the left eye. This kind of stock 
serves a very useful purpose. Unfortunately, too many 
shooters lose the sight of the right eye from some mis¬ 
hap when using their guns, and to such a gun with a 
stock of this description is an absolutely necessity. But 
more than one style of stock has been devised for these 
sportsmen, and the second model shown is, of the two, 
to be preferred; it is quite as handy and strong, and 
gives the same shaped comb at the same angle as an 
ordinary stock. The “Monopeian” gun comes into this 
same category, although the result obtained is not by 
bending over or so fashioning the stock that the left eye 
may see over to the rib and align the gun, but the sight 
is brought out to the left side of the left barrel, and an 
additional sight affixed to the breech. 
B. S. A. Shoot. 
Notices were sent out the first of the week that there 
would be a special white flier shoot at the Baltimore 
Shooting Association grounds Saturday afternoon, Nov. 
17. The special feature was two 20-bird races, $10 a 
side, the loser to pay for birds, shot by Messrs. Roder 
and Brown. The first race resulted in a tie on 17. In the 
shoot-off at 5 birds each, Roder won, Brown missing his 
fourth bird. In the second race Brown was victorious, 
scoring 17 to Rodcr’s 16. The scores: 
First race at white fliers, 20 birds, $10 a side, loser to 
pay for birds: 
Roder .22102202022221221212—17 
Brown .10222102122222212202—17 
Shoot-off at 5 birds: 
Roder .22221—5 Brown .22101—4 
Second race, same considitions: 
Roder .22211200122011220212—16 
Brown .i.22220122002222222222—17 
The next event was a 30-bird race, $10 entrance, two 
moneys, 60 and 40 per cent. There were eight entries. 
Waters and Jones divided first money with a score of 9. 
Roder and C. Malone second with 8. This was followed 
by a very exciting team race, 5 birds each—Waters and 
Roder against Brown and Jones. The former team won, 
10 to 9. 
It was a typical day for white fliers, just wind enough 
to make them fly with spirit, and more swift birds darted 
from the trap than Capt. Malone has given us for a long 
time. There was the usual miss-and-out with five entries, 
won by Waters and C. Malone, who made a run of 12 
straight. The scores: 
Ten birds, $10 entrance, two moneys, 60 and 40 per 
cent. Waters and Jones divided first money: 
Waters .2220211122—9 
Tones .2201212222—9 
Fenhagen .0021011001—5 
Meares .221220001—7 
Team race, 5 birds eac 
against Jones and Brown. 
Roder .22112—5 
Jones .22222—5—10 
Miss-and-out, $2 entrance: 
Fenhagen .001110212 
Waters .222222222222 
J Malone .111111111110 
C Malone .2120101122-8 
Watkins .2200102222-7 
I Brown .2222012200—7 
man, Roder and Waters 
Roder and Waters won: 
Waters .21222-5 
Brown .02222—4—- 9 
C Malone .221111121111 
Roder .212211122220 
The many friends of Mr. J. II. Moxley are congratu¬ 
lating him on winning the II. A. Brehni cup, which has 
been shot for at Prospect Park every Mondav for four 
weeks. The race was for 40 white fliers, and Mr. Moxley 
made the remarkably good score of 36. Considering 
varying weather conditions and a week’s interval between 
each race, this was an exceptionally fine score. Next 
week Brown and Roder will shoot a race at 50 white 
fliers each, for $25 a side, loser to pay for birds. This 
promises to be a very interesting event, as both are 
ever.ly matched, and doubtless much money will change 
hands. The members of the B. S. A. are discussing 
challenging the ITolmesburg Gun Club shortly for a ten- 
man team race, at 25 white fliers per man. There is 
keen rivalry existing between these clubs, and much 
interest will be taken in the shoot. We would like 
Philadelphia to “wake up’’ and make a proposition. 
“Let me see,” said she, “what is it you call these 
men who run automobiles?” 
“Pardon me,” replied the gallant man, “I’m too much 
of a gentleman to tell you what I call them.”—Philadelphia 
Ledger. 
490-500 
A New 
Squad 
Record! 
MADE WITH 
WJNCHBSTBR 
Factory Loaded Shells 
CUCH was the remarkable score made 
^ by the Winchester squad of expert 
shots at Albany, Ga., November 9th—a 
score that has never been equalled by a like 
number of shooters, and which is all the 
more noteworthy on account of one of the 
members being a woman. The individual 
scores were as follows: W. R. Crosby, 99; 
Jno. S. Boa, 99; Jno. R. Taylor, 98; J. M. 
Hawkins, 98, and Mrs. Topperwein, 96. 
Total, 490 out of 500. All used Winchester 
Factory loaded shells, and the high scores 
they have been able to maintain on the trip 
so far, which includes 100 straight each by 
Crosby and Hawkins, bid fair to set a new standard for 
merit in loaded shotgun shells. 
WINCHESTER SHELLS PROVE THEIR SUPERIOR MERIT 
Montclair Gun Club. 
The Life of Rifle Records. 
Although nothing special was scheduled for the 
shoot field Nov. 17, some thirteen men faced the traps, 
among them Messrs. Lladwen, Jr., \\ heeler, Force and 
Gould, all of whom had done no shooting for nearly a 
year, and had in consequence grown a little rusty. 
Tack Fanning came over and tried to show the boys 
how to shoot, and help stir things up a little. 
On next Saturday the November shoot for the cup 
will occur, and the usual Thanksgiving Day shoot will 
occur on the forenoon of the 29th. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 
Targets- 25 15 25 10 15 10 
Batten ..'. 20 15 18 9 11 7 
Fanning . IS 14 22 9 10 9 
Bush '.r.. 21 12 IS 6 12 6 
Boxall . 39 13 19 6 10 7 
Barnes . 14 10 17 9 
W I Soverel . 3.1 12 .. 7 
Parke . 8 13 3 9 
S R Soverel. U 32 .. I .. 
Cockefair . 14 17 8 13 i 
Hadwen, Jr . 5 .. .. 
Wheeler . J ° “ 
Gould . 8 6 5 
The conclusions of the experts of the United States 
Army Ordnance Department are interesting, in that they 
agree that high velocity and low trajectory are too costly 
in sm^ll arms and in ordnance alike. The life of all 
modern rifled guns is brief, and the larger the caliber 
the shorter becomes their life. General Crozier has 
pointed out that one of the 12in. coast defense guns, 
which would become inaccurate after sixty shots had 
been fired from it, would, in the event of an action with 
an enemy’s ships, be out of commission in less than an 
hour and a half, less time than it would take a fleet to 
pass a given point. He favors lower velocity in some 
guns. At Springfield the tests of bullets for the .30 cali¬ 
ber service rifle have resulted in attaining muzzle veloci¬ 
ties as high as 2,700 feet per second, but the erosion is 
so great that rifle barrels in which this test ammunition 
is used soon lose their accuracy. Smaller powder charges 
and heavier bullets would reduce the effectiveness of the 
service rifle, but prolong the life of the barrels. 
Ferdy—Why did you stop calling on the Mainchance 
girl? ... 
Algy—Why, the whole family seemed too glad to see 
me.—Life. 
