Oct. 20, 1906.] 
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U. S. Government 
Ammunition Test. 
Accuracy test of Krag-Jorgensen .30-Caliber Cartridges held at Springfield Armory 
by order of the Ordnance Department, United States Army. 
TESTED —Ammunition of all the American Manufacturers. 
CONDITIONS— 10 and 20 shot targets, muzzle rest. 
10 and 20 shot targets, fixed rest. 
DISTANCE— 1 000 yards. 
RESULT and OFFICIAL REPORT: 
U. S. Cartridges excelled all others. 
MANUFACTURED BY 
UNITED STATES CARTRIDGE CO., 
LOWELL, MASS.. U. S. A. 
Agencies: 497-503 Pearl St., 35-43 Park St., New York. 114-116 Market St., San Francisco. 
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Garfield Gun Club. 
Chicago. Oct. 13.—The appended scores were made on 
our grounds to-day on the occasion of the fourth trophy 
shoot of the fourth series. In the club trophy event 
McDonald and George won in Class A on 22; T. L. 
Smedes won Class B on 24; Thomas won Class C on 19. 
In the Dupont cup event, McDonald won in Class A 
on 15; T. L. Smedes won in Class B on 15; Thomas won 
in Class C on 9. 
Several nuiss-and-out events were shot and some 
sweeps. 
The day was fine for target shooting, but the counter 
attraction of the world’s championship baseball games 
told on attendance. 
Events: 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
McDonald . 
. 22 
15 
9 
8 
5 
8 
Meek . 
11 
7 
6 
9 
5 
Thomas . 
. 19 
9 
10 
8 
9 
8 
A Smedes . 
. 18 
14 
8 
9 
5 
5 
T Smedes . 
. 24 
15 
7 
10 
7 
9 
Eaton . 
.-20 
10 
6 
8 
2 
5 
Dr Reynolds . 
. 22 
10 
8 
9 
-George . 
. 19 
14 
8 
7 
8 
9 
Ford . 
. 16 
13 
8 
10 
Herr . 
.. 20 
9 
9 
7 
2 
5 
Paul Meek . 
5 
No. 1 was club trophy. No. 2 was Dupont cup. 
Dr. J. W. Meek, Sec’y. 
Length of Barrels. 
Philadelphia, Pa .—Editor Forest and Stream: Permit 
me to ask your readers if any of them have knowledge 
cf. any tests ever having been made showing results ob¬ 
tained when using nitro powders, with different length 
barrels? Stated another way: Is a shotgun with 30in. 
barrels more efficient than one with 2(jin. or less so than 
one with 32in.? 
Thirty inches seems to have been adopted as the 
standard length for shotgun barrels, so long ago that the 
memory of man runneth not to the contrary. This was 
in the days of black powder. Now that nitro powders are 
generally used, is there any reason for sticking to the 
standard length, 30in. ? If not, what is the proper length? 
If a 26in. barrel will produce equally as good pattern and 
penetration as a 30in., why should we burden ourselves 
carrying around 4in. of unnecessary barrel? There is no 
question but what the gun with the shorter barrel can 
be swung and handled generally more quickly, but will it 
shoot as well? 
' I am led to these inquiries from a conversation had a 
few days since with a gun man, who told me a friend 
of his had made a number of tests and proved conclu¬ 
sively that a gun with 26in. barrels produced equally as 
good results as one with 30in. 
. The powder men should be able to answer this ques¬ 
tion, as it resolves itself into the proposition, how long 
should a barrel be to allow' all the powder to burn and 
the gases to perfectly develop? 
I am only one of many that I am sure would be glad 
to have some official information on this subject. 
B. VV. Teal. 
[The matter of proper length of barrel has been 
definitely settled long since. In determining the best 
barrel for shooting, the shooter must be considered as 
much as the length of barrel. A 26in. barrel will shoot 
as well as a 30in. barrel, but a shooter cannot align it 
so accurately. Considering the combined advantages of 
alignment and ballistic properties, the 30in. barrel has 
been fixed upon as the best compromise in respect to 
length.] 
The Winchester Squad. 
The Winchester squad, the members of which are 
Messrs. W. R. Crosby, J. M. Hawkins, John S. Boa, 
J. R. Taylor and Mr. and Mrs. Ad Topperwein, started 
on a tour which is to include the principal cities of the 
south. They opened their exhibition at Baltimore, and 
will work south as far as New Orleans. When it is con¬ 
sidered that this squad inc.udes some of the greatest 
experts of the world, the champion rifle expert of the 
world, and possibly the greatest lady shot in the world, 
it is easy to imagine the interest which these exhibitions 
will evoke. * 
WINCHESTER SQUAD. 
W. R. Crosby. Ad. Topperwein. J. M. Hawkins 
John S. Boa. J. R. Taylor. 
Montclair Gun Club. 
Montclair, N. J., Oct. 13.—Handicaps apply in events 
3, 4, 5 and 11 only. Event 1, prize a box of cigars, was won 
by F. W. Moffett with 13 breaks to his credit. Event 3, 
for a year’s subscription-to Forest and Stream, was won 
by Colquitc who, after missing his first target, broke 24 
straight. Events 4 and 5, entry and re-entry, for the 
Sauer gun, was tied for by Boxall and Cockefair, at 23, 
Allan, who had broken 24 targets, not complying with 
the conditions of the contest. This tie remains to be shot 
off at a later date on account of darkness intervening. 
Event 6, the weekly event for the Colquitt prize, was 
won by Mr. Cockefair, he making the highest score of 
those competing. 
Events: 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
Targets: 
15 
10 
25 
25 
25 
25 
25 
P Allan . 
4 
17 
17 
9 
A R Allan . 
. 9 
7 
24 
24 
20 
16 
O Force, 6 . 
. 7 
5 
15 
17 
19 
Batten, 4 . 
. 4 
6 
17 
18 
i6 
Moffett . 
. 13 
9 
21 
18 
21 
15 
20 
Boxall, 2 . 
. 11 
9 
21 
23 
21 
19 
Cockefair, 2. 
. 8 
21 
23 
20 
Nott, Tr, 2. 
8 
17 
21 
Colquitt . 
10 
24 
22 
20 
22 
21 
Frost ... 
6 
4 
5 
Holloway, 4 . 
18 
20 
13 
1 )oremits, 6 . 
17 
13 
is 
ITartshorne, 6 . 
12 
13 
13 
Dukes . 
17 
23 
ii 
20 
12 
D N Force, Tr. 
15 
P Harrison . 
20 
is 
Edward Winslow, Sec’y. 
Huntington Gun Club. 
Huntington, W. Ya., Oct. 6.—The following members 
of the Huntington Gun Club met at their grounds yester¬ 
day in competition for the Dupont cup. The following 
scores were made, F. H. Merrick making high score, 
with N. M. Prindle a close second: 
Merrick .48 Frazer .42 
Prindle .411 Appling .41 
Sample .44 Parrish .39 
llouthet .44 
The club will give a two-day tournament Oct. 23 and 24. 
All are invited. ' Huntington Gun Club. 
“So,” said one of the guests at the wedding of Air. 
Roxley’s daughter, “your house loses a daughter to-day?” 
“Huh!” snorted the old man. “I don’t know yet 
whether the house loses a daughter or merely gains a 
son-in-law.”—Philadelphia Record. 
