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FOREST AND STREAM 
Aug. 2, 1913. 
A Great Flight Shot. 
The London Field of June 28 reports the 
fifth Le Touquet Archery meeting, June 18-29, 
inclusive, under the auspices of the Societe des 
Sports du Touquet. The feature of principal 
interest was a flight shot of 459 yards and 8 
inches. This shot was made by Ingo Simon, and 
as the Field states, is the longest on record 
since the famous shot by Mahmoud Effendi, sec¬ 
retary of the Turkish Embassy, in 1795. This 
shot was 482 yards. Mr. Simon made another 
shot which was 8 yards and 2 feet shorter than 
Iris best. The Field says he used Turkish bows 
■over 200 years old, pulling 80 pounds and 60 
pounds, respectively. The longer shot was 
achieved with the heavier bow. Nothing is said 
about the arrows, nor are any other particulars 
given regarding the bows, whose age, to say the 
least, is amazing. 
Apart from this the record at the meet was 
not characterized by any noteworthy shooting. 
H. P. Nesham won the double York round with 
179-821. C. F. Nesham made 186-818. Miss 
Bird won the double National round with 113- 
539 and Miss Williams made 113-527. 
A feature of the archery reports in the 
Field is one which Dr. Weston has often em¬ 
phasized. There is plenty of poor shooting in 
the English clubs, so that our American archers 
who are either beginners or else have not yet 
attained a skill satisfactory to themselves need 
not be discouraged. This recalls a comment by 
Will H. Thompson made in Forest and Stream 
just before the first annual tournament of 1879. 
Mr. Thompson said that while enthusiasm was 
-very great, our archers need not be disappointed 
if their scores should fall far below expectations. 
He spoke of the prevailing English standards of 
the times, and said he did not expect over four 
archers to exceed 500 points at the double York 
round, and said that 400 points at the double 
York would surely win a prize for the archer 
making that score. As to the ladies, Mr. Thomp¬ 
son said that a score of 320 at the double Colum¬ 
bia round would be highly commendable. 
The meeting took place in Chicago, Aug. 12- 
14, inclusive. Will H. Thompson won the cham¬ 
pionship with a score of 172-624. The only 
■other scores over 400 were by Theo. McMechan, 
-who made 117-479; Charles Leech, who made 
1 n-439; Ford P. Hall who made 115 - 439 . and 
W. B. Shufeldt, who made 94-406. The ladies 
-who made scores of 400 and over were Mrs. 
Spaulding Brown, no-548; Mrs John Lee, who 
made 110-510, and Miss Laura Owens, 94-422. 
So the ladies’ achievements measured up to Mr. 
Thompson’s standard. 
Forest and Stream of those days was the 
■official organ of the National Archery Associa¬ 
tion, as it is now and its columns abounded 
with discussions of interest to archers, just as 
■at the present time. The writer expects to delve 
into these volumes of years ago, and from time 
to time reproduce matters of interest as space 
permits. A feature of the reports of those days 
was the number of reports of scores and matches 
from the various clubs of the country. This 
feature, it is hoped, will become more prominent 
in this department of the present time as clubs 
are organized and scores reported. 
Don't forget to write the president or sec¬ 
retary of the N. A. A. at once that you intend 
to go to Boston. 
Wheeling Archers’ Fine Start. 
Pittsburgh, Pa., July 22. —Editor Forest and 
Stream: The Pleasant Valley Archery Club, of 
Wheeling, W. Va., held a two days’ shoot July 
19-20. John Howard, of Pleasant Valley, gave 
the archers the use of his splendid lawn for the 
two days, and incidentally took his first lesson 
in the sport. First day’s scores: 
i?o arrows, uvyus. . 
Dr. O. L. Hertig... 89-465 
J. S. Jiles. 77-335 
J. T. Monahan.50-212 
American round: 
Jiles . 81-469 
Ilertig . 86-444 
Monahan . 64-268 
F. Mullaney . 44-184 
H. Lutz . 44-182 
W. Howard . 40-160 
Mullaney . 56-210 
Lutz . 54-206 
Howard . 50-190 
On the second day a team round was shot 
and the archers worked hard to beat the work 
of the day before. Scores: 
96 arrows, 60yds.: 
Hertig . 92-492 Lutz . 46-196 
Jiles . 89-433 Mullaney . 44-188 
Monahan .51-215 Howard .43-171 
John Howard shot a beginner’s round of 
forty-eight arrows at 40 yards, scoring the very 
good result of 25-77. 
The Wheeling archers more than make up 
for their numbers by their splendid hospitality. 
The scores made by the visitors were very good, 
considering the fact that Will Welty and his 
able assistant, Mr. Monahan, were busy keeping 
us filled to overflowing with spring chicken, 
Virginia ham, new corn, cantaloupes, stuffed 
green peppers and other good things indigenous 
to the fertile neighborhood soil. 
O. L. Hertig. 
Smith and Gray’s Close Match. 
Boston, Mass., July 22.— Editor Forest and 
Stream: On Monday, July 21, B. P. Gray and 
L. C. Smith shot a challenge match consisting 
of a double American round, with the following 
results: 
B. P. 
Gray . 
60yds. 
27-151 
50yds. 
30-158 
30-166 
40yds. 
30-188 
29-178 
Total. 
87-473 
86-495 
L. C. 
Smith. 
. 27-121 
25-109 
29-171 
29-195 
29- 189 
30- 190 
173-968 
85-481 
84-494 
Louis 
169-975 
C. Smith. 
Newton Archers Get Down to Business. 
Boston, Mass., July 23. — Editor Forest and 
Stream: On July 22, B. P. Gray, S. W. Wilder, 
L. C. Smith and C. T. Switzler shot a York 
round on the archery range of the Newton 
Archers with the following results: 
100yds. 80yds. 60yds. Total. 
B. P. Gray. 25-93 19-59 20-104 64-256 
S. W. Wilder. 21-77 17-65 21-93 59-235 
L. C. Smith. 12-30 20-58 20-112 52-200 
C. T. Switzler. 1J-50 24-96 12-32 50-178 
This is the second York round which any 
of these individuals has shot since last fall. 
Louis C. Smith, Sec’y. 
Some Boston Scores. 
George Phillips Bryant, of Boston, secre¬ 
tary of the National Archery Association, sends 
in all the complete scores he had shot to date. 
Mr. Bryant says: “I am not proud of them, 
but want to do my part in answering your appeal 
of last publication.” The scores follow: 
York round: 
Tilly 12. 
July 13. 
Tilly 19. 
July 20. 
100yds. 80yds. 
48 180 32 148 
34 136 36 164 
43 177 43 191 
44 176 40 206 
60yds. Total. 
23 135 103 463 
24 130 94 430 
22 128 108 496 
23 133 107 515 
President Burton Payne Gray, of Boston, 
also sent in the same mail his recent scores. 
They are: 
Double 
American round, 
July 17: 
60yds. 
50yds. 
40yds. 
Total. 
25 117 
28 172 
30 162 
83 451 
22 103 
30 174 
30 222 
82 499 
165 950 
July 19: 
60yds. 
50yds. 
40yds. 
Total. 
29 141 
29 153 
30 196 
88 490 
27 149 
28 150 
30 200 
85 499 
173 989 
Mr. Gray also sends a team round he shot 
July 26 with the following scores: 
26.... 
....6 
28 
6 
24 
6 
38 
5 
27 
23 
117 
4 
22 
5 
35 
5 
31 
6 
32 
20 
120 
5 
37 
6 
32 
5 
33 
5 
21 
21 
123 
6 
32 
5 
27 
6 
32 
6 
40 
23 
87 
131 
491 
Mr. Bryant and Mr. Gray have the editor’s 
thanks for these scores, and it is hoped others 
will follow. As for Mr. Bryant's criticism of 
his own shooting, it will be generally regarded 
as good enough for anybody, but Phil Bryant. 
But it’s a month to the Boston meet. 
Why Should Arrow Feathers Be Soft? 
I ask, because the best work I ever did as 
a boy was with a set of home-made arrows 
feathered with vanes from a wild duck of some 
sort, probably a sheldrake. They were long, 
perhaps four and a half inches, narrow, stiff to 
harshness, and strongly concave. Having no 
good glue, I cut grooves right-angled into the 
shaft and tacked the feathers in, whereby I was 
able to shoot frogs for bait without losing 
feathers by water. Once a flight shot struck 
a stone, which carved a complete spiral groove 
around the steel head from tip to base, showing 
the power of the rifling of those feathers. As 
to accuracy, once I shot at a woodpecker on 
the skyline of a tree twenty yards off. The 
shaft passed between him and the tree and flip¬ 
ped him ten feet outward. Once at about that 
distance I shot at a small shingle, to prove to 
some skeptic boys what feathers were for, then 
shot at the arrow hole, landing within half an 
inch. I copied as best I could some Apache 
arrows and so Pd like a reason for softness if 
you please. John Preston True. 
At a practice round shot on July 15, L. C. 
Smith, secretary of the Newton Archers, shot 
a double American round with results as follows: 
60yds. 50vds. 40yds. H. S. 
28 140 27' 161 30 1 90 . 85 491 
25 119 29 167 30 212 S4 498 
169 989 
This is Mr. Smith’s banner record, and as 
I know his modesty would not permit him to 
make mention of it, I am taking the liberty of 
sending it along. S. W. Wilder, Pres. 
English Archery Meets. 
The dates of the English public archery 
meetings of the season, as given in the London 
Field, are: 
July 16-18.—Grand Western, Salisbury. 
July 30-Aug. 1.—Grand National, Edgbaston. 
Aug. 27-29. — Northern Counties, Derby. 
Sept. 9.—Antient Scorton Arrow, Clitheroe. 
Sept. 16-18 — Southern Counties, Weybridge. 
Oct. 1-3.—Hereford Round, Hereford. 
