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THE MASTER-GUNNERS OF ENGLAND 
Dear Murdoch, 
“ Penguite, Par Station, 
Cornwall, 2nd November, 1885. 
The General Order of 1882, to which you refer me, is no “authority.’* 
The then chief clerk in the D.-A.-G.’s office (named Campbell) at Woolwich no 
doubt framed it for Sir Alexander Dickson’s signature, upon a communication 
from the Mas ter-General, which probably covered a letter from the Herald’s office 
or the Lord Chamberlain. If any of these could be found, or if Garter-King-at- 
Arms would have the original grant looked up, we should have something to go 
on. Quo fas et gloria ducunt is the motto of the 50th (West Kent Regiment), 
as well as of the Royal Engineers. TJbique is no part of the sentence, 
as is clearly shown by its being separated from it in the devices. The 50th 
enumerate twenty actions; but they cannot say with the Ordnance Corps TJbique ! 
In short, it is our Badge —a distinct thing from our Motto . 
Yours sincerely, 
(Signed) J. H. Lefroy.” 
P.S.—I observe that one Regiment has Quo fata vocant! Everybody will see 
that TJbique quo fata vocant would be false Latin. 
Sir Henry Lefroy’s recollection of the incident of 50 years previously 
was correct; and the R.A. Dress Regulations , 1833, gave the Device, 
Badge, and Motto, as approved by the King on 31st October, 1832— 
subjoined : — 
