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Feb. 22, 1913 
practical than verse; I can even foretell a big 
success, if the thing in its entirety were set 
to music and put on the operatic stage. But 
when it comes to reducing the beautiful total 
which comprises good archery to figures, I 
epiestion the soundness of the analysis entering 
into the proposition. In other words, ‘‘Them 
equations gets my goat.” 
Say, Mr. Editor, who is responsible for the 
spelling of the title of Rendtorff's last article? 
“Toxopholist"! Shade of Ulysses! Could that 
warrior but see how his beloved title was 
butchered by your typesetter, he noi doubt would 
feel like sending a fiery arrow out of the depths 
of Blades in search of the offender. 
Elmer’s macliine has shown why the arrow 
goes to the left on leaving a rigidly held bow, 
for the arrow in so doing is following the angle 
of divergence just as one could expect. The 
machine also gives the true reason why the 
arrow goes straight when the bow is held in 
the hand: The force of the string propelling 
the arrow acts on the movable arm and wrist 
which holds the bow. Thus, in spite of the 
angle of divergence, a compensatory adjustment 
takes place and the arrow goes true. 
Elmer's machine can be worked out by 
mathematics. The human machine is sub'cct 
to a non-mathematical process, and the huiiian 
equation is not one of figures and signs. 
On Jan. 25 tlie last scores of the season 
were shot on the Bon Air-Beach View range in 
a high wind, which accounts for the low totals: 
Ninety-six arrows, 80 yards; 
• Hits. Score. 
Jiles . 47 171 
Holmes . 51 153 
Hertig . 77 331 
The extra twenty yards distance in the 
eighty yards over the sixty yards makes a high 
score very difficult of attainment. 
O. L. BIertig. 
[As the good doctor avers, this is the place 
for discussion—all sorts of poetic license being 
allowed during class hours. Brother Rendtorff 
being very partial to diagram illustration has 
used an O for an I, presumably, because it best 
illustrates his purpose—and more closely resem¬ 
bles a target, which has attracted the critical 
arrow of the Pittsburgh expert. Maybe, how¬ 
ever, euphony has had some hand in the matter, 
Mr. Rendtorff's spelling better suiting adaptation 
for setting to music—only our expert equationist 
can tell.— Editor.] 
The Point System of Scoring. 
BY EDWARD B. WESTON. 
Andrew S. Brownell, of New York City, 
who was one of the most prominent archers in 
early days, writes as follows: 
“The notes on archery published Feb. 6, 
with which you favored me, bring up to my 
mind the controversy on the same subject which 
lasted two or three years—1879 to 1882. 
“The present generation seems to find the 
same difficulty with the revision of the York 
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round scores by points, as we did then; and 
while mj'self and a number of others, as you 
no doubt remember, advocated what appeared 
to be a radical change, the result was, I think, 
to show a number of us at least, how readily 
the necessary correction could be made. What 
we discovered really was, that the rings of the 
target are not proportioned equally for com¬ 
paring scores at all distances. TO' illustrate: 
It is skill that enables one to hit the target at 
100 yards, but it is largely chance what part of 
the target is hit. This, I think, is what led 
the English people to revise the score by the 
F. S. BARNES, 
I.ake Forest, Oregon. 
point system, but in doing so they brought in 
other disastrous conditions. 
“Ordinarily by the point revision, the score 
where the number of hits is larger in the lower 
score than the amount of the larger score over 
the lower, the change in rank will be made; 
and a simple solution of the problem is, I 
think, to combine the hits and score as a total 
score. This will in a few cases bring the man 
who has the excess of hits, but smaller score, 
to the front. 
“The illustration by Dr. Hertig of 6 hits 
12 score, and 2 hits 14 score, would give total 
scores of 18 and 16, which I believe would be 
their proper ratio. The example given by Dr. 
Elmer, would also show the same result. 
“This simple revision would not be subject 
to the objectionable feature which we found in 
the point system, whereby a man, say third on 
the list, would secure a point, and thus change 
the relations between the first two on the list. 
“As you will probably remember we had 
some long and elaborate articles on this subject, 
all of which might have been avoided could 
this simple solution have been evolved without 
the discussion.” 
Mr. Frank C. ITavens, who has done more 
than any other person, in contributing prizes ,to 
the N. A. A., made the following conditions 
in the competition for his prizes last August: 
“And that the scores be not computed by 
the present system, but that hits and scores be 
added—for instance, 87 hits, 487 score. Re¬ 
sult, 574. 
“This will always place the best performer 
in his proper position in the list.” 
Atlantic Division Dinne , A. C. A. 
The thirty-third annual dinner of the At¬ 
lantic Division was held at the Hofbrau Haus, 
New York city, Saturday evening. Feb. 8, 1913. 
One hundred and fifty-eight members and 
guests gathered together for one of the most 
successful affairs in the history of the Division. 
Vice-Commodore A. D. Berning. as toast¬ 
master, introduced many interesting speakers, 
including Commodore Fred W. Cramphorn, 
Secretary B. L. Goodwin, President Board of 
Governors, H. Lansing Quick; Hon. Franklin 
W. Hopkins, W. P. Stephens and Captain 
Anthony Fiala, the Arctic explorer, who, with 
the aid of stereopticop views, gave a highly 
interesting account of his_canoeing and explora¬ 
tions in the frozen North. 
A. C. A. Membership. 
NEW MEMBERS PROPOSED. 
Atlantic Division. — Howard Adshead, 1752 
Margaret street, Frankford, Philadelphia, Pa., 
by Joseph W. Broomhead. 
Central Division.—Joseph A. Banks, Clifton 
Springs, N. Y., by William B. Foote. 
Western Division.—Herbert S. Inbusch, 315 
Farwell avenue, Milwaukee, Wis., by John F. 
Butt. 
NEW MEMBERS ELECTED. 
Eastern Division.—6586, William A. Jacob¬ 
son, 30 Clinton avenue. New Haven, Conn.; 
6587, P. E. Munger, 68 Perkins street. New 
Haven, Conn.; 6588, John F. Male, 117 Poplar 
street. New Haven, Copn.; 6589, Russell H. De 
Bann, 97 Exchange street. New Haven, Conn.; 
6590, Robert W. Hoadley, 119 Exchange street. 
New Haven, Conn.; 6591, Maelund S. Colburn, 
362 Ferry street. New Haven, Conn.; 6592, 
Harold G. Towner, 99 Exchange street. New 
Haven, Conn.; 6593, Philip S. Mack, 108 East 
Pearl street. New Haven, Conn.; 6594, Harry 
L. Greene, 1174 Elmwood avenue. Providence, 
R. I. 
Western Division.—6595, Gilbert R. Baum- 
bach, Peoria, Ill.; 6596, W. J. Livesley, Kaiser- 
hof Hotel, Chicago, Ill.; 6597. Charles L. Eng- 
strom, 1209 Madison street. Peoria, Ill.; 6598, 
Horace G. Roberts, 17 Oak Lane, Davenport, 
Iowa; 6599, Elbert M. Burnett. 905 Fullerton 
avenue. Chicago. Ill.; 6600. Charles P. Hunting- 
ton, Cumnor Road, Kenilworth, Ill. 
