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FOREST AND STREAM 
May 3, 1913 
Dr. Weston. 
Mrs. Witwer-Taylor. 
G golds at 30yds. 
Robert P. Elmer. 
A Double York. 
Seattle, W'asli., April ig.—Editor Forest and 
Stream: Dr. J. W. Doughty and the writer 
shot a double York round on the beautiful 
grounds at Old Fort Steilacooni on Tuesday 
and Wednesday. April 8 and 9. in beautiful 
weather, with only a trifle too much wind. Dr. 
Doughty was deep in his first “slump" and was 
much discouraged, hut his style of shooting is so 
exceptionally good that I feel sure he will soon 
again be in full control of his bow. I give you 
our scores: 
J. W. Doughty 
W. II. Thompson 
31 99 
30 98 
28 116 
33 131 
20 98 
21 93 
79 313 
84 322 
61 197 
61 247 
41 191 
163 634 
49 199 
39 201 
39 189 
36 168 
20 112 
24 114 
108 500 
98 483 
88 400 
75 357 
44 226 
206 983 
Will H. Thompson. 
Pittsburgh Score . 
Pittsburgh, Pa., April 21.— Editor Forest 
and Stream: In response to a request made by 
Louis C. Smith, secretary of the Newton Archers 
of Boston, the shooters of Pittsburgh held a 
meet on Saturday, April 19, and herein are the 
scores made. i\Ir. Smith’s .idea was to have 
means of comparison of scores made all over the 
country. 
Owing to the fact that Pennsylvania does 
not celelirate April 19 as a holiday, the after¬ 
noon only could be used, and on that account 
the full program was not completed. 
However, the Beechview Bon Air archers 
and the Schenly-Bellefield bowmen were well 
represented, and the shooting was done on the 
Pittsburgh Athletic Club range, and on the 
grounds of the Bon Air Club, the idea being to 
have means of comparison of the two rival sec¬ 
tions. The wind was very high, and it would 
be safe to say that had the day been calm, 50 to 
100 points would have been added to each score. 
Double American round. Beechview Bon Air archers: 
60 Yds. 50 Yds. 40Yds. H. S. 
\Y. T. Holmes.“>4 m; -’0 isr :)0 icn 451 
26 132 28 150 29 189 83 471 
50 248 57 307 59 369 166 924 
1. .S. Tiles. 
...21 
93 
27 
123 
30 
162 
78 
378 
24 
112 
25 
121 
28 
168 
77 
401 
45 
205 
52 
244 
58 
330 
155 
779 
D. A. Wolf. 
63 
22 
72 
27 
113 
64 
248 
14 
58 
17 
69 
26 
112 
57 
239 
29 
121 
39 
141 
53 
225 
121 
487 
T. T. Monahan 
4 
24 
12 
48 
20 
68 
36 
140 
16 
30 
7 
21 
15 
57 
32 
118 
14 
54 
19 
69 
35 
125 
66 
258 
Team round, 
9i) arrows, 
60yds 
W. J. Holmes 
...81 
401 
1 ). 
A. 
Wolf 
.. 51 
197 
Jas. S. Jiles ... 
...82 
390 
S. 
M. 
Stauffer .. 
.. 45 
171 
Schenly-Bellefield bowmen, single 
American 
round: 
ilOYds. 
50Yds. 
40Yds. 
II. 
S. 
0 , M. Sorber . 
.. 18 
60 
23 
93 
21 
103 
62 
256 
Cl. W. I’ostgate 
...15 
69 
20 
68 
29 
117 
64 
254 
Milton Sorber 
.... 15 
51 
19 
77 
19 
99 
53 
227 
W. H. Haines . 
.... 14 
62 
17 
95 
15 
63 
46 
220 
F. il. Howard 
...13 
61 
11 
55 
20 
88 
43 
204 
The low scores of the Schenly-Bcllefield men 
are no doubt due to the fact that this is their 
first effort of the season. Captain Postgate, Dr. 
Haines and Milton Sorber have all done better 
work, and no doubt by mid-summer they will be 
scoring well over 300 in the single American. 
The writer had the misfortune to shoot a 
section of a broken arrow, some two and one- 
half inches long into his hand on Friday evening, 
consequently he will refrain from shooting for 
some weeks, as the wound while not serious is 
very painful, necessitating complete rest for the 
hand during the healing process. 
O. L. Hertig. 
Pittsburgh, Pa., April ii. — Editor Forest 
and Stream: In the April 12 issue of your 
magazine I read with delight the criticism on 
Prof. E. J. Rendtorff's recent articles by Robert 
Page Lincoln. This opens up a new field for 
arguments between the target archer, who uses 
every legitimate means of obtaining the most 
perfect equipment to enable him to make the 
highest scores possible, and the archer who wan¬ 
ders through woods and over fields shooting “at” 
anything that strikes his fancy, with a bow, 
arrows, arm guard, string, quiver and shooting 
glove made with his own hands. 
All archers appreciate Professor Rendtorff’s 
articles as being entirely different from the usual 
archery stories. Badminton’s book on archery, 
published in England, deals very exhaustively 
with every question which may arise in the mind 
of the beginner as enumerated by Mr. Lincoln, 
such as the best woods for making bows and 
arrows, methods of manufacturing bows, arrows, 
guards, strings, finger tips, etc. The National 
Archery Guide, published by Spaulding, price 
ten cents, gives excellent directions for “rank 
amateurs.” 
While in Chicago last Christmas week I had 
the pleasure of meeting Professor Rendtorff, 
and he certainly has made a study of the scien¬ 
tific points of the sport. During my conver¬ 
sations with this archer, I gained much valuable 
information regarding serving the string, nock¬ 
ing points and other niceties of the game. 
It is quite apparent that Mr. Lincoln 
imagines that the professor shoots with a Duff 
lemonwood bow , actually weighing fifty-five 
pounds. If I were not so polite I would laugh 
(Ha! Ha!). But if you could see this wonder¬ 
ful Chicago archer, who stands several inches 
over six feet, and has a physique denoting re¬ 
markable strength, you would realize that even 
this feat of arms might be literally accomplished 
by him. 
With men like Duff, Barnes and Whitman 
and others, to say nothing of our English ex¬ 
perts, who have spent a lifetime in studying how 
to season wood and make self bows, backed 
bows, footed arrows, and other equipment, it 
would be the height of folly for us poor target 
archers to compete with them, unless we do so 
for the extreme pleasure some of us gain in 
making things, like our friends. Dr. 0 . M. Sober 
and J. S. Jiles, of this city. 
It is hard to decide whether or not the 
target fiend or the archer of the woods gets the 
most enjoyment. Personally, I enjoy both forms 
of recreation, but think that the hunting style 
appeals more to the country man and the young 
folks, whereas very few business or professional 
men have the time to wander over hills and dales 
with “hum” made outfits. 
Permit me to congratulate you on the in¬ 
teresting articles that have appeared in your ad¬ 
mirable magazine since you started your archery 
department. G. W. Postgate. 
The Handy Man. 
Bill Simms was quite a handy man at any sort of trich; 
Could tinker up a balky watch or fix a windmill quick. 
Could whittle fancy ornaments or doctor up a calf. 
Or shoe a horse with lightnin’ speed or run a phono¬ 
graph. 
.^n artist, too, iwith chalk or brush, quite wonderful 
was he, 
'The only thing Bill couldn't draw was just a salary. 
Bill Simms could make a dandy churn that surely did 
the work. 
Could build an automobile that would run without a jerk. 
Could make a set of bobsleighs that would run as slick 
as grease. 
Could cut a pair of trousers that would always hold their 
crease. 
But one thing that Bill couldn't make at all, to save his 
life— 
He couldn’t make a livin’ for himself and kids and wife. 
Bill Simms could play the violin and almost any horn— 
Could imitate each bird or beast that ever had been born. 
The folks kept him busy doin’ odd jobs and all sich. 
He had no time to settle down in order to get rich. 
His neighbors all asked favors and he never turned one 
down; . , , 
And Bill spent his declinin years in livin on the town. 
—Chicago Journal. 
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