April, ’23] 
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which have been considered invulnerable, are finally demonstrated to 
be quite sensitive to treatment. Triumphs of that character must 
exert a tremendous influence on the public and should make it more easy 
to secure funds to attack other difficult problems. 
So I would like to reiterate what has been said before, that entomology 
is, after all, not an independent science, and there is no reason why a 
man cannot be a chemist or a plant physiologist or an economist and 
still be an entomologist. 
Mr. L. O. Howard: Mr. President, this subject was one of the 
subjects of discussion at the Conference of the Imperial Btireau of 
Entomologists in London, two years ago, and it is extremely interesting 
to make a comparison between the discussion that took place there and 
the discussion taking place here today. 
In the first place, they had no speaker who had the experience and the 
authority of Dr. Osborn. They had no speaker who in his experience 
and in his force of presentation equalled Prof. O’Kane and Dr. Ball. 
They had no one who could compare with Dr. Kellogg, it goes without 
saying. Nevertheless, they had a most interesting discussion and they 
arrived at precisely the same conclusion that we are arriving at today, 
that the broader the training of the economic entomologist, the better it 
will be for economic entomology, and the entomologists themselves. 
Some curious incidents connected with the discussion were these: 
In the first place, it was opened by Maxwell LeFroy, who, when he 
first returned from India, you will remember, read a lecture in South 
Kensington, on the training of an economic entomologist. It was a 
rather theoretical talk and it was interesting because he came to the 
same conclusion that we have reached. However, he said nothing 
whatever about the training of economic entomologists in America, 
where it has been carried much farther than in any other part of the 
world. 
And after nearly every one had spoken there was a general call for 
Robert Newstead, of the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine — a 
man of great accomplishment and high standing. He is a man, how¬ 
ever, who had no technical training but was taken up as a promising 
young man by Eleanor Ormerod. He had educated himself, and it was 
interesting to see his reaction to this conclusion that we were gradually 
arriving at, and rather to our surprise, Newstead agreed with us and he 
said that of course the economic entomologist must have as broad an 
education as possible, Not having had a college training himself, he 
