April, ’23] 
ENTOMOLOGICAL COURSES, DISCUSSION 
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entomology my students study insects of corn, of vegetable crops, in¬ 
sects of the household, insects of domestic animals and of the green¬ 
house and so on through the list of economic groupings, rather than to 
study them as Orthoptera, Coleoptera, Lepidoptera, etc. 
In that way I feel convinced in my own mind that I reach the student 
in a way that gets up a momentum that will carry him through the 
following semester of more or less “dry” morphology and classification. 
In other words, in my brief experience, I have been forced to this 
opinion somewhat against my will, that the way to get students inter¬ 
ested in entomology is first, to give them what they want ; and by that I 
mean, something that has a vital connection with their past experi¬ 
ence and anticipated future; and after you have filled them so full of 
what they want that they can’t hold any more of that, they will gracious¬ 
ly and enthusiastically take what you want to give them. 
Mr. R. N. Chapman: I realize that I am too young to say anything 
worth while, but I have been interested in this program and greatly im¬ 
pressed with the difficulty of educating myself. In the little teaching I 
have done, I have learned that there are some things that are hard to 
outline in a hard and set program of courses. I also believe that some of 
the qualifications on the board there apply to the instructor to a large 
extent and account for the success of his students to a considerable extent. 
If you were to look over America and see where our schools of ento¬ 
mology have been, I do not think you would be able to correlate them 
at all with the courses outlined, but you would correlate them directly 
with some great personalities. 
Outside the field of entomology in a little college in the West, where the 
total number of students was only about two hundred, a teacher there in 
two years interested six people who are now known in the line of zoology. 
We have about eight hundred students taking our general course 
now. The number who go on is not very great, but those who do go on 
can be correlated with the laboratory instructors they have. They are 
all getting the same laboratory outlines, but certain of those instructors 
inspire students to go on, while some of the others do not. 
So I am afraid it is difficult to outline a course which would be appli¬ 
cable to everybody and could be taught with the same success by every¬ 
body. 
President J. G. Sanders: Is there any further discussion? 
I believe the benefit that has been derived from this symposium and 
discussion far outweighs what can be secured from a much longer program 
