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old days, was about the size of the average num¬ 
ber nine American make. 
Here in Southern California it is very seldom 
that anything larger than number six shot are 
used for duck shooting; many of our sportsmen 
use number 7’s at the first of the season and some 
who shoot small calibre guns use number 7’s 
throughout the whole season, and they shoot at 
long distances here after the first day of open 
season. 
In my former letter I mentioned the name of 
one of the “Old Guard,” Mr. H. L. Story of 
Altadena (a suburb of Pasadena). Mr. Story is 
a native Vermonter, born in Cambridge, Vt., and 
the founder of the great piano manufacturing 
firm of Story and Clark, Chicago. This season 
he made his fifth annual trip across the con¬ 
tinent in the same car and with the same chauf¬ 
feur, and has visited nearly every section of the 
United States north of the Mason and Dixon 
line; these trips have covered a distance of more 
than 70,000 miles and made without any serious 
accident of any kind. 
STANSTEAD. 
THAT LONG DISTANCE CASTING RECORD 
AGAIN. 
New York, November 16, 1914. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
In your issue of November 14, 1914, I note a 
letter from Roger B. Wheeler and your answer. 
Mr. Wheeler contends that the record made by 
Dr. Carleton Simon this year, of 349% feet, 
is not a world record and quotes Hardy’s Ang¬ 
lers’ Guide, published by Hardy Bros., Ltd., of 
Alwick, England, as giving a cast of 351 feet 
made in Paris, March 15, 1913, with one of their 
patented device reels. I also note your answer 
in which you verify the fact as stated by Mr. 
Wheeler as being an acutal statement, but you 
also leave yourself a loophole by stating that, as 
cited, it is correct and this is crux of the matter. 
I personally do not believe in such a statement 
when it is used as a means to advertise a patent 
reel and furthermore, there is no club in Paris 
that holds casting Tournaments, especially so in 
March; then, when held, they do not admit over 
half ounce weight lead. A record to stand must 
be in competition and over a measured course, 
steel-taped and witnessed by proper officials. 
What is done in practice does not count, and 
when the record now held by Dr- Carleton 
Simon will be surpassed by himself or others 
next year, which undoubtedly it will be, we will 
find in various catalogues greater distances at¬ 
tributed to such and such a rod or reel. 
These casting achievements of English surf 
casters have gone the rounds for years, and when 
sifted down, are myths. One of 335 feet when 
investigated proved that the caster had the line 
looped at his feet and did not cast from the reel. 
Another of 330 feet was found to be the length 
of the line that was off the reel after the cast 
was made, and not the distance from where the 
caster stood, measured to the point of ground 
where the lead struck. If you will investigate 
this last myth, you will find 100 feet were added 
by mis-print and that no tournament is held in 
Paris where heavy lead is used, and if this dis¬ 
tance was made in practice, all I can say is that 
it is not official. Dr. Simon bought this rod 
from me, which was made true to my specifica¬ 
tion by Mr. John Landman and with this rod, and 
a Holzmann reel, he has made 363 feet in prac¬ 
tice and a number of times has made 355 feet, 
but this is not official, as it was not made in com¬ 
petition and it does-not count; neither have I or 
others whose tackle Dr. Simon uses -tried to 
benefit by advertisements of the past year by 
publishing such fact- After your investigation 
you can again state, as you did in your issue of 
October 24, that 349% feet is the longest cast you 
know of ever made in competition. 
W. M. FINCH, of F. A. O. Schwarz. 
CINCINNATI GUN CLUB. 
Hammerschmidt Shoots a 92 Per Cent. Clip. 
November 15 was no sort of a day for sport 
at the traps; when it was not raining the air was 
full of heavy mist which was decidedly moist, 
and had 'the effect of making the flight of the 
targets almost invisible; consequently there were 
no scores made that were up to the average. 
Hammerschmidt shot a 92 per cent, ga'it, and 
Schreck and Jones succeeded in breaking 90 per 
cent, of their targets, which was exceptionally 
fine work under the conditions. In the team 
matches, Schreck’s side defeated L. Gambell’s 
team by a margin of two targets, shooting at 50 
singles per man. The same teams hooked up 
at 25 pairs of doubles, and Gambell’s team came 
out ahead with a margin of 7 targets. Hammer¬ 
schmidt made high individual score on the 
teams, breaking 46 out of 50; and Jones and 
Schreck tied for second place on 45. Nine mem¬ 
bers took part in the events, the traps being kept 
busy until dark. The turkey, chicken and mer¬ 
chandise shoot will be held on November 22nd; 
all arrangements are completed, and a big crowd 
is expected. The program consists of five 20- 
target events, with a total entrance of $5, targets 
included. Two turkeys and three chickens will 
be given in each event, high guns, ties shoot off 
in following event. Sliding handicap will be 
used. All shooting from 16 yards in the first 
event, and handicap in next event being based 
on score made. Twenty entries to fill; for each 
additional five entries, one chicken added; for 
each additional ten entries one turkey added. No 
contestant can win more than two turkeys, but 
there is no limit placed on the number of chick¬ 
ens. Those contestants who do not win a turkey 
or more than two chickens will be given the 
choice of a valuable list of merchandise prizes- 
First choice to those who fail to win a chicken, 
followed by those who win only one chicken, 
and then by those who win two chickens, and so 
on. There will be an optional $1 sweep on each 
20 targets, divided 50, 30 and 20 per cent., class 
shooting; ten entries to fill. The shoot will be¬ 
gin at 10:3o a. m., and lunch will be served in 
'the club house at noon. 
L. Gambell . 26 18 
Jones . 26 19 
Schreck . 27 18 
Hammerschmidt . 27 19 
Leonard . 18 xi 
Koch . 12 13 
Butz . 21 18 
A. Garrubell . 15 
Martin . 
25 
25 
25 
25 
24 
19 
18 
21 
20—1 
15 
13 
17 
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II 
14 
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T. 
68 
45 
45 
46 
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82 
Doubles 
Leonard . 
12 
Prs. 
13 
T, 13 
Prs. 
13—26 
16—30 
Team 
Match, 
50 largets. 
IS 
15 
20 
1 .. Gamibell . 
13 
18—44 
Jones . 
13 
19—45 
26 
26 
37—89 
Schreck . 
14 
18—45 
Hammerschmidt . 
.. 14 
13 
19—46 
27 
27 
37—91 
Team 
Match, 
25 Pairs. 
12 
13 
Prs. 
Prs. 
1.. Gambell . 
14 
18—32 
Tones . 
. 21 
23—44 
t 
35 
41—76 
Schreck .. 
13 
19 - 32 
Hammerschmidt . 
• 17 
20—37 
30 
39—69 
YOUGHIOGHENY COUNTRY CLUB. 
Calhoun Shoots in Great Form. 
McKeesport, Pa., Nov. 14, 1914. 
Saturday afternoon proved a beautiful one for 
trapshooting, clear sky, no wind, and conditions 
ideal, and J. F. Calhoun’s score showed how well 
he took advantage of such conditions in the 50 
bird shoot, getting 49 out of a possible 50, and 
only missing one in practice. In other words 
out of all shells shot during the afternoon, two 
only failed to take effect on the clay birds. Hick¬ 
man had 2nd place with 39 and Willis and Wil¬ 
son followed close with a 38 and 34 respectively. 
Calhoun won the doubles with 20 out of a possi¬ 
ble 24. The scores for the regular shoot of 50 
birds being as follows: 
J. F. Calhoun . 
A. Hickman . 
Jno. Willis . 
J. W. Wilson . 
J. A. C. Sword . 
Wm. Bailey . 
Or. W. C. Heisey . 
It might be explained that Dr. Heisey practic- 
25 
24 
49 
22 
17 
39 
20 
18 
38 
l6 
18 
34 
l6 
15 
31 
II 
16 
27 
13 
8 
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