He is a plain man of German origin, little education, a good beekeeper
and well spoken of for honesty. Mr King Cramer, Dent Hamilton
College. These are the notes I took of our interview. Am 50 years old. 
Father kept bees, am very fond of them and have had to do with
them all my life. Have kept bees of my own six or seven years
in Langstroth and Gallup hives. In 1879 had a Queen which could
not fly, put her in a jar under glass with drones, no favorable
result. In September 1880 made further experiments, I lifted
up two frames of brood and bees into 2nd story of Langstroth hive
[illegible] inch honey board between the stories. Bored a hole in
the honey board to let the old workers return to parent stock. 
Covered the top of a 3rd story with thin white muslin. In three
days gave them a Queen cell which hatched in about 8 days. 
Put 15 just hatch drones into the nucleus the same time with
the Queen cell. Three days after the Queen hatched left an opening
between two parts of honey board to allow the bees to enter the third story. 
Had three colonies fixed this way. As the bees came through the
opening, they flew in the third story and played backwards and forwards
to the opening as though towards the entrance of hive. As they
did not lay thought it a failure and killed one of the Queens, would
have killed the others but for the suggestion of a neighbor that they looked
to him like fertile Queens. Gave them comb with eggs and next day they
began to lay. Kept the nucleus over a full stock for the sake of warmth
as the weather was cool. No bees were allowed to fly before the queens began
to lay. They had honey and water in the hive. When the queens began to lay
sent for for GS Hill and [illegible]. Hill came and found the queens laying well
for size of nuclei and season of the year. The nuclei while shut up never
kept dark until about 1 PM. Good worker bees hatched in both the nuclei
gave bees and combs with some brood still unhatched to stocks below. 
They wintered well. Mr Kramer showed me the colonies where three Queens
were, they were sisters, and the drones were from the same queen. The
bees of [illegible] colonies were remarkably uniform. Mr Kramer used muslin



