870 
FOREST AND STREAM 
[May 29, 1909. 
The Hell Gate Gun Club. 
New York.— The advance guard of the above-named 
organization left on the 4:10 p. m. train on Monday, May 
17, for the Duck Farm Hotel, on the second outing for 
1909. The day was cloudy and the wind east, and the 
prospects of a pleasant day at the traps was doubtful; 
but a beautiful starlit night presaged a fair day for the 
morrow, as Messrs. Lange, Garms, Albert, Kreeb, Ban- 
dendistel and Schortemeier were greeted by the new 
proprietor of the Duck Farm Hotel, Mr. H. B. Schaffer. 
An excellent supper was served, and the evening was 
spent in exchanging opinions of the efficacy of results of 
the different combinations of shells, powder and wadding, 
of live-bird loads. Of course, this subject is assumed to 
be in the hands of the manufacturers of loaded ammuni¬ 
tion, and it may be also “lese majeste” to imagine that 
an ordinary amateur may experiment with a load to get 
the best results, as they did a decade ago, when the 
sportsman ■ who did not load his own shells was consid¬ 
ered a “mollycoddle” and green “Elys” were the rule 
in live-bird matches. In fact, I remember an instance 
in a team race: A member of one team had missed a 
bird, and as the score was close and every bird counted, 
when the captain of his team rushed up to him and de¬ 
manded what shells he missed the bird with. The answer 
was an American shell. The captain decorated the azure 
in that vicinity with profanity and declared that the 
culprit would never shoot on a team again unless he 
abeyed the captain’s orders and used green ‘“Elys.” And 
obeyed, when our American shells give better results than 
any imported. Uncle Sam builds a stone wall .bulwark 
against the importation of any ammunition that will pre¬ 
vent the consumer paying less than from 75 to 100 per 
cent, over the cost of manufacturing and a large profit 
besides to the untaxed domestic manufacturer. Messrs. 
Trostel, Wellbrock, Selg, Henderson and our president. 
Col.. John H. Voss, arrived on a later train, and the 
entire contingent started the game at 8:15 a. m. The next 
morning. May 18, the hour of 11:25 A. M. brought the 
balance of the club members to the grounds, and before 
dark some 700 birds were used. 
The handicapping committee had not got a line on 
Mr. Henderson’s real ability, and he gave an exhibition 
in the later events from the 28yd. mark that will prob¬ 
ably relegate him to scratch hereafter. His 26th bird was 
first barrel of good judgment on a fast outgoing twister. 
Charlie Lange’s 12th was a good second, and his 22d, 
that got away, was one that an expert would miss. 
Albert’s 11th and 18th, Kreeb’s 17th and 29th, Schorty’s 
28th, Bandy’s 12th, 17th, 14th and 28th, Garm’s 16th and 
20th, Wellbrock’s 21st and 24th, Trostel’s 18th, Selg’s 
17th, Voss’ 14th, 24th, 27th and 30th, Schlicht’s 4th and 
24th and 26th, Meckel’s 5th, 17th, 21st and 25th, Hughes’ 
8th and 28th, Debacher’s 5th, 19th and 21st, Dannefelser’s 
25th, and Foerster’s 13th and 24th were beautiful stops. 
The sky became overcast again in the morning, and 
the wind, beginning from the east, shifted to the north 
and then the west during the aay. The birds were 
divided as usual among the contestants, and potpie was 
the menu the next few days at their homes. Mr. Schaffer, 
our host, served a good breakfast and plenty of it, and, 
as our president stated, no better dinner ever was 
served as the one the boys put away this day. 
Mr. Schlicht made the highest score, 28 out of 30, but 
was beaten out for first place by Mr. Meckel and Ban- 
dendistel, on the point system of the club, they scoring 
7% points: Schlicht 7 points; Wellbrock 6; Schorty, 
Garms, and Henderson 5: Albert and Voss 4; Selg, Foer- 
ster and Debachcr 3: Lange 2%; Kreeb, Trostel and 
Hughes 2, and Dannefelser %. 
April shoot: 
Yards. Points. 
C Lange . 
.28 
OVz 
0112111211— 
9 
P Albert . 
.28 
7 
212*112122— 
9 
T Kreeb . 
.28 
51/2 
1000110112— 
6 
L H Schorty. 
.30 
7 
8 
R Bandendistel .. 
.28 
61/2 
1212110110— 8 
P Garms . 
.20 
6 
1121010111— 
8 
T Wellbrock . 
.30 
7 
11211111*2— 
9 
F Trostel . • .. 
.28 
6 
1100022122— 
7 
T H Selg . 
.26 
5 
2120120100— 
6 
J H Voss. 
.30 
7 
0212210121— 
8 
T A FTenderson. 
.28 
7 
1110121112— 
9 
T Schlicht . 
.28 
7 
0122112111— 
9 
E A Meckel. 
.28 
r>V2 
2221210*21— 
8 
T Hughes . 
.26 
5V2 
011210*211— 
7 
R Debacher . 
.28 
7 
0*0**11111— 
5 
J F JJannetelser . 
.28 
51/2 
0120*01112— 
6 
H Foerster . 
.28 
7 
1212022021— 
8 
Mav shoot: 
C Lange . 
.28 
fiV2 
1210012100— 6 
P Albert . 
.28 
7 
1112111220— 
9 
J Kreeb . 
.28 
51/2 
0012022020— 
5 
L H Schortv. 
..30 
7 
2*11120121— 
8 
R Bandendistel. 
.28 
6y2 
0112212212— 
9 
P Garms . 
.28 
6 
1210120102— 
7 
T M'ellbrock . 
.30 
7 
1112110222— 
9 
F Trostel . 
.28 
6 
200000126'^— 
7 
T H Selg. 
.% 
5 
62221‘’0210— 
7 
T H Voss . 
.30 
7 
9 
T A Henderson. 
.28 
7 
1111111212— 
10 
T Schlicht . 
.28 
7 
1121122210— 
9 
E A Meckel. 
.28 
fiVo 
2122‘>11111 — 
10 
T Hughes . 
.20 
5y2 
0200200000— 
9 
R Debacher . 
.28 
7 
2100112021— 
7 
T P Dannefelser. 
..'.....28 
5y2 
*2211*0000— 
3 
H Foerster . 
.28 
7 
1120110002— 
6 
June shoot: 
C Lange . 
.20 
sy2 
1011201010— 
6 
P Albert . 
.28 
7 
1201101*12— 
7 
J Kreeb . 
.28 
51/2 
1011011021— 
7 
L. H Schortemeier. 
7 
2121112222— 
10 
R Bandendistel . 
.28 
61/2 
1121121111— 
10 
P Garms . 
.26 
6 
1112012021— 
8 
J Wellbrock . 
.30 
7 
2102212122— 
9 
F Trostel . 
.28 
6 
222012*200— 6 
J H Selg. 
.26 
5 
0010010000 — 
2 
J H Voss. 
.30 
7 
1101112101— 
8 
1 A Henderson. 
.28 
7 
0120110111— 
7 
T Schlicht . 
.28 
7 
1112111221— 
10 
E A Meckel. 
.26 
oya 
2112201122— 
9 
J Hughes . 
.26 
51/2 
101021210*— 
6 
R Debacher . 
...28 7 
1222212122—10 
T P Dannefelser.... 
...28 5% 
2100020011— 5 
H Foerster . 
...28 7 
1221021111— 9 
The totals in the 
three shoots follow: 
C Lange . 
. 21 
T H Voss .. 
. 26 
P Albert . 
. 25 
J A Henderson. 26 
T Kreeb . 
. 23 
T Schlicht .. 
. 28 
R Bandendistel .... 
. 27 
E A Meckel 
. 27 
L H Schortemeier, 
. 26 
T Hughes . 
. 15 
P Garms . 
. 23 
R Debacher . 
. 22 
T Wellbrock. 
. 27 
T P Dannefelser. 14 
F Trostel .. 
. 20 
H Foerster . 
.23 
J H Selg. 
. 15 
Scores made in the special 
events follow: 
Henderson, 28 _ 
.1112211122—10 
Debacher, 28 . 
.*022202120— 6 
Meeker, 28 .. 
.22120120U— 8 
Schorty, 30 .. 
.1211001112— 8 
Bandy, 28 . 
.1222000101— 6 
Schlicht, 28 .. 
.1212022121— 9 
Albert, 28 . 
;i002001111— 6 
Wellbrock, 30 . 
.1121101102— 8 
Trostel, 28 . 
.2010120121— 7 
Foerster, 28 . 
.101111*020— 6 
Garms, 28 . 
.1120021112— 8 
Gross, 30 . 
.1222111**2— 8 
Lange, 28 . 
.2122212101— 9 
Kreeb, 28 . 
.1020112011— 7 
Event 3. miss-and-out, $5 entrance: 
Henderson .. 
.21222—5 
Wellbrock 
.0 —0 
Debacher . 
.11110-^ 
Meckel . 
.10 —1 
Event 4, same as 
event 3, $5 entrance: 
Henderson .. 
.22212—5 
Wellbrock .. 
.22110—4 
Debacher .. 
.10 —1 
4^ 
The referee and scorer was Mr. Schortemeier. 
Manhatta. 
Chicago Gun Club, 
Chicago, III.. May 22. —The day was close, with a 
strong east wind. The targets were hard: 
Events: ^--1-, ,-2-3 4 
Willard. 20 . 22 24—46 16 18—34 23 19 
Barto, 19 . 21 22—43 17 23—40 .. .. 
*Freeman, 20 . 21 17—38 19 20—39 22 24 
R Clancy, 20 .22 22—44 18 21—39 22 23 
Roll, 20 . 20 18—38 19 20—39 24 .. 
Cutler, 18 . 17 18-35 15 17—32 23 .. 
Shrigley, 16 . 23 16—39 20 19—39 23 .. 
Bowman, 16 . 17 18—35 19 18—37 15 .. 
Hunt, 16 . 18 16—34 20 23—43 18 .. 
L Clancy, 16. 16 15—31 15 21—36 19 18 
■^Graham, 18 . 19 19—38 18 24—42 20 20 
Atteberry, 16 . 23 19—42 16 22—38 21 .. 
Carkeek, 19 . 21 21—42 12 19—31 22 .. 
Parker, 16 . 19 13—32 13 16—29 19 .. 
Shogren, 18 . 19 14—33 17 15—32 17 17 
*German, 20 . 23 19^2 21 24—45 25 .. 
Bills, 20 . 24 19—43 23 24—47 25 25 
*Stannard, 20 . 24 15—39 23 20—43 24 .. 
^Gilbert, 20. 23 23—46 23 23—46 24 24 
‘^‘Marshall, 20 . 21 21—41 21 22—43 22 .. 
Huckins, 16 . 19 11—30 16 19—35 16 .. 
Trapp, 16 . 14 13—27 15 22—37 18 20 
Dr Bosler, 17 . 21 13—34 23 21—44 .. .. 
Irwin, 16 . 7 1—8 1111—22 .. .. 
McKinnon, 17 . 21 7—28 15 21—36 .. .. 
Smith, 16 . 14 4—18 15 18—33 .. .. 
Kilpatrick, 16 . 19 10—29 21 21—42 .. .. 
W A Davis, 16. 21 14—35 21 20—41 .. .. 
Harvey, 16 . 10 9—19 11 17—28 .. .. 
Rubidge . .... 16 24 
Haines . .... 4 .. 
A O Davis. .... 10 .. 
■^Professionals. 
Twelve pairs: 
R Clancy . 15 Carkeek . 18 
Freeman . 17 Stannard . 22 
L Clancy . 10. Bills . 18 
Willard . 15 Graham . 16 
Roll . 15 German . 23 
Red Hook Gun Club. 
Red Hook, N. J., May 20.—Scores made to-day at the 
registered tournament of the Red Hook Gun Club are 
appended. 
Professional high averages were made by J. S. Fan¬ 
ning and H. H. Stevens. 
-Amateur high averages were made by E. M. Hurd, 
J. B. Sanders, and H. H. Valentine. 
Events: 
12 3 4 
5 6 7 8 9 10 
Shot 
Targets: 
20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 
at. 
Brk. 
*T S Fanning. 
20 17 18 15 17 18 20 20 20 20 
200 
185 
*H H Stevens.... 
IS 16 19 18 14 18 17 19 18 20 
200 
177 
*Sim Glover. 
19 15 17 17 17 16 18 17 19 17 
200 
173 
*C B Brown. 
14 19 13 16 11 13 17 17 12 19 
200 
151 
E M Hurd . 
18 17 17 17 
.. 14 19 19 19 18 
180 
158 
T B Sanders . 
15 16 15 19 
.. 17 18 18 19 20 
180 
157 
H H Valentine.. 
19 16 15 20 
.. 16 17 19 16 17 
180 
155 
W A Gregory. .. 
15 17 14 16 
.. 18 15 19 19 18 
180 
151 
H S Benson. 
16 15 16 17 
.. 19 15 14 17 16 
180 
145 
1'’ S Massonneau 
18 14 15 16 
.. 14 16 16 16 16 
ISO 
T4l 
R Lavinffs . 
11 14 16 19 
.. 13 13 16 16 16 
180 
140 
B R Horton. 
14 14 15 18 
.. 12 18 16 14 15 
180 
136 
J L Daly. 
17 16 12 12 
.. 14 16 13 18 13 
180 
131 
E M Martin. 
16 11 10 12 
.. 14 14 12 16 17 
180 
122 
S W Haines . 
10 13 16 13 
.. IS 13 13 11 15 
180 
119 
C B Hoffman.... 
12 13 13 14 
.. 8 10 10 11 13 
180 
104 
|ohn W Bain. 
.14 
.. 13 15 19 18 18 
120 
97 
B C Schutte. 
.. 13 20 16 16 16 
100 
81 
Clark Snyder .... 
15 12 13 9 
.. 13 14. 
120 
76 
Dr R T Carroll.. 
13 13 16 15 
80 
57 
F S Whitnall.... 
11. 
. 10 10 .. 
60 
31 
L Smith . 
.. .. 18 .. 
20 
18 
R I Fraleigh.... 
.. ..12 . 
20 
12 
Event No. 5 was at doubles. 
’"Professionals. 
Hudson Gun Club. 
Jersey City, N. J., May 23.—Some very good scores 
were made at the Hudson Gun Club grounds to-day at 
the regular bi-monthly shoot by several of the members 
that attended. C. T. Day, Jr., was high average for 
the day with 93 per cent., breaking 70 out of 75 shot at. 
Schorty was runner up with a total of 158 breaks out 
of 175 shot at, or 90 per cent. The next best average 
was 84 per cent., made by H. L. Brown. 
Messrs. Woodruff, Wynne, Knight and Dr. Welzmiller, 
of the North River Gun Club, almost a squad, were vis¬ 
itors at the grounds to-day. We were pleased to have 
them shoot along with us. and wish they will soon come 
again and bring the missing member of the squad along 
with them. 
The day was bright and plea.'^ant, but a stiff wind that 
blew from the northwest caused the targets to soar sky¬ 
wards at least 30yds., and the shooters undershot them. 
In spite of the capers of the wind, Mr. Engel succeeded 
in powdering them all in event No. 3 for a straight 
score, this being the fourth strq^ht being made on these 
grounds in a long while, three being made last shoot, 
thev being the first in a year. 
Events 2 and 3 w«re the first shoot for the Du Pont 
trophy, and Mr. H. Pape won a leg on it with a straight 
score, including his handicap, he being the only .straight 
score of the thirty-two shooters competing. Event ,4 
was shot from the 22yd. mark. 
Targets: 
25 
25 
25 
25 
25 
25 
Putney . 
. 15 
17 
25 
21 
. , 
Williams . 
. 23 
‘>0 
IS 
■>7 
19 
Engle . 
99. 
19 
25 
21 
16 
2i 
H L Brown. 
. 18 
99, 
22 
19 
20 
23 
lY Cartridge . 
. 21 
23 
Kellev . 
. IS 
19 
20 
17 
‘>1 
22 
Dr Mills . 
. 13 
15 
9 
10 
12 
Dr Story . 
. 12 
4 
16 
12 
14 
8 
Gille . 
. 18 
13 
15 
18 
18 
Dr Groll . 
. 15 
13 
13 
10 
11 
8 
Gro1I, Tr . 
. 12 
9 
14 
C H Day, Jr. 
99 
24 
24 
Schortv . 
. 22 
21 
19 
20 
22 
22 
B Beach . 
09 
Raymond . 
. . iri 
IS? 
‘>(1 
15 
H Pape . 
. 18 
16 
17 
Boothroyd . 
17 
17 
15 
14 
-Strobel . 
15 
18 
14 
21 
"m UTinen . 
17 
■’0 
16 
‘^0 
Wynne . 
^^’’ynne, Jr. 
Knight . 
. 22 
20 
20 
16 
21 
2i 
18 
21 
....•. 15 
19 
14 
1b 
20 
21 
Woodruff . 
. 18 
22 
18 
18 
21 
22 
R II Woodruff. 
20 
20 
19 
M'hitley . 
16 
18 
Rugire . 
. 15 
15 
18 
11 
Dr O’Brien . 
. 16 
15 
18 
21 
18 
22 
Malone ... 
14 
14 
11 
Dr Wetzmiller . 
17 
is 
21 
ii 
C A Kurzell. •. . 
15 
IS 
16 
Keiber . 
14 
17 
14 
Smith . 
. 22 
21 
19 
19 
13 
't.“h. k..'Sec’y." 
Higbland Gun Club. 
Philadelphia. May 22. — The weather conditions were 
highly disagreeable and unfavorable for trapshooting. An 
event of special interest was that between Charles Mink, 
holder, and Harrv Buckwalter, at 100 targets, for the 
ch'in'.pionshio of Philadelphia. The scores follow: 
Amateur championship: 
Mink . 92 Buckwalter . 79 
Four-man team contest: 
Mink’s Team. Buckwalter’s Team. 
Mink . 
.... 92 
Cantrell 
95 
Tansey . 
.... 90 
Buckwalter 
79 
Dr Crooks .... 
.... 9(1 
Frank . 
77 
Franklin . 
.... 80—352 
Perry 
66-317 
One hundred 
McCarty . 
target contest 
. 20 
20 
19 
18 
20 
Total. 
97 
Cantrell . 
. 18 
20 
19 
19 
19 
85 
Mink . 
. 17 
20 
16 
19 
20 
^2 
Mooney . 
. 19 
18 
17 
19 
19 
92 
Newcomb . 
. 19 
17 
16 
19 
20 
91 
'I'ansev . 
. 17 
18 
19 
20 
16 
90 
Dr Crooks .... 
. 18 
19 
18 
18 
17 
90 , 
C'verbaugh .... 
. 18 
19 
17 
17 
17 
88 
Dr Wentz . 
. 18 
16 
18 
14 
15 
81 
Franklin . 
. 18 
17 
14 
16 
15 
80 
Buckwalter .... 
. 14 
13 
18 
19 
15 
7:1 
I-'iank . 
. 18 
15 
14 
15 
15 
. 77 
Boyer . 
. 12 
17 
13 
18 
15 
75 
Harkins . 
. 11 
15 
17 
14 
17 
74 
ICratcbe . 
. 12 
16 
13 
15 
17 
73 
Perry . 
. 14 
13 
13 
15 
11 
66 
Clark . 
. 13 
13 
15 
12 
15 
68 
Firth . 
. 13 
16 
7 
11 
14 
61 
Nontcl&ir Gun Club- 
Montclair, N. J., Mav 22.—The final leg on the Dukes 
trophy was run off to-day (event 2) and resulted in a 
tie between Messrs. Bush and Winslow, each scoring, 
with their handicaps, 23 out of a possible 25. In the 
shoot-off Winslow won out (event 3) with three to spare. 
Messrs. Colquitt and R. Jacobus have tied with three 
wins each for first and second prizes, while Messrs. 
Boxall, Allan, Guenther and Winslow are tied for third 
prize with one win each. 
In event 4, for the Dupont trophy, Messrs. Dukes and 
Jacobus tied on 24, Jacobus winning out with one to 
spare. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 
Targets: 25 H.25 H.25 H.25 H.25 
Thos Dukes . 24 . 1 24 1 21 
R Jacobus . 21 1 22 .... 1 24 1 23 
G W Boxall. 22 2 21 .. .. 2 23 .. .. 
E Winslow . 13 4 23 4 22 . 
C L Bush . 21 4 23 4 19 . 
E Jacobus . 1 22 .... 1 18 .... 
E. Winslow, Sec’y. 
